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    not accuracy system is stupid

    counting healer DPS for clearing content is just wrong, im not against healer DPSing, healer without DPSing is just bad and lazy. high DPS healer should be a bonus point for the healers, not the prequisite for clearing content. people will choose the best healer possible anyway.

    but if you need a pentamelded crafted body piece for healer just to clearing content at the first place, thats dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iambanana View Post
    not accuracy system is stupid

    counting healer DPS for clearing content is just wrong, im not against healer DPSing, healer without DPSing is just bad and lazy. high DPS healer should be a bonus point for the healers, not the prequisite for clearing content. people will choose the best healer possible anyway.

    but if you need a pentamelded crafted body piece for healer just to clearing content at the first place, thats dumb.
    Ever thought that maybe the healers that meld do it for personal reasons and not just their raid, there's nothing wrong with wanting to play your role as effectively as possible.

    Still let me know when you clear the last two Savage floors without healer dps or 210 weapons....
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    Quote Originally Posted by iambanana View Post
    not accuracy system is stupid

    counting healer DPS for clearing content is just wrong, im not against healer DPSing, healer without DPSing is just bad and lazy. high DPS healer should be a bonus point for the healers, not the prequisite for clearing content. people will choose the best healer possible anyway.

    but if you need a pentamelded crafted body piece for healer just to clearing content at the first place, thats dumb.
    Healer DPS is not required, and should not be required.
    But it shouldn't be denied for absolutely no reason either.

    There is NOTHING accuracy/hitrate adds to the gameplay, it just limits people, it's not adding difficulty, it's just tedious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    Healer DPS is not required, and should not be required.
    But it shouldn't be denied for absolutely no reason either.

    There is NOTHING accuracy/hitrate adds to the gameplay, it just limits people, it's not adding difficulty, it's just tedious.
    that was how it worked in 2.0 , the encounters were based around the idea of healers not dpsing (yet still could do it ), now in 3.0 SE decided to take into cosideration that healers will be dpsing at some points.....so now healers need to dps or u your dps/tanks need to be more geared , because alex savage is a huge dps check .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    that was how it worked in 2.0 , the encounters were based around the idea of healers not dpsing (yet still could do it ), now in 3.0 SE decided to take into cosideration that healers will be dpsing at some points.....so now healers need to dps or u your dps/tanks need to be more geared , because alex savage is a huge dps check .
    Savage was not designed with healer DPS in mind. The reason it's such a DPS and gear check compared to previous raids was to prevent world first progression statics from clearing it as fast as they did in Final Coil. SE stance on healer DPS is basically the case of them neither endorsing or discouraging it, but leaving the choice up to the players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    Savage was not designed with healer DPS in mind. The reason it's such a DPS and gear check compared to previous raids was to prevent world first progression statics from clearing it as fast as they did in Final Coil. SE stance on healer DPS is basically the case of them neither endorsing or discouraging it, but leaving the choice up to the players.
    I wonder what I would be doing 50+% of the time in most dungeons and trials, if SE would discourage me from DPSing. O.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by iambanana View Post
    not accuracy system is stupid

    counting healer DPS for clearing content is just wrong, im not against healer DPSing, healer without DPSing is just bad and lazy. high DPS healer should be a bonus point for the healers, not the prequisite for clearing content. people will choose the best healer possible anyway.

    but if you need a pentamelded crafted body piece for healer just to clearing content at the first place, thats dumb.
    I agree, but what also with what sirDarts said, I feel like healers shouldn't be wasting their time putting forth dps effort, only to miss, and be ineffecient by trying to be efficient with their entire toolkit. Stuff like expert roulette has lots of misses and that just hurts your soul. I don't think accuracy should be killed, but at the same time I want it to focus on something else.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 10-26-2015 at 09:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iambanana View Post
    not accuracy system is stupid

    counting healer DPS for clearing content is just wrong, im not against healer DPSing, healer without DPSing is just bad and lazy. high DPS healer should be a bonus point for the healers, not the prequisite for clearing content. people will choose the best healer possible anyway.

    but if you need a pentamelded crafted body piece for healer just to clearing content at the first place, thats dumb.
    Tomes/Raid gear can't be overmelded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iambanana View Post
    counting healer DPS for clearing content is just wrong, im not against healer DPSing, healer without DPSing is just bad and lazy. high DPS healer should be a bonus point for the healers, not the prequisite for clearing content.
    This issue also exists when you don't have enough accuracy to hit mobs in the open world when levelling. DD/Tank classes can go after mobs a few levels higher than their own level without many issues (given a chocobo healer and/or excercising caution in how many mobs you pull), but when a healer misses almost as often as s/he hits, it means fights take a lot longer. And sure, we can keep ourselves alive, provided we aren't hit mid-cast to interrupt our heals, but we're still as squishy as any other caster...

    "More accuracy for healers" doesn't only come into play in high-end instanced content. It's an issue when I at 60 have less accuracy than I did in my level 50 i120-130 gear, but the mobs have higher accuracy demand.
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