Accuracy- Healers and the New Materia System

[Rawrz]

Yeah I know another paniced/aggravated thread. ;c

Does accuracy exist just to screw healers? ;-; How often does a DPS or a Tank in Tank Stance with increased accuracy or in DPS Stance miss?

With tanks no longer being "forced" to Git Gud and stack STR/VIT with Melds, they have in a sense, freedom without choice on their gear. Healers will still have to "choose".

Accuracy or Crit?
Accuracy or Spell Speed?
Accuracy or Determination?
Accuracy or Piety?
Accuracy OR MIND?!

I feel like all the other roles don't need to go out of their way to gather Accuracy, since it is stapled into their gear and since 3.0 was designed with a lower accuracy dependency, (but high enough that a healer can miss many times in a row.)

I think healers could compromise by shaving off some secondary stats to gain just a few more points in accuracy.

or the obvious solution of what they did with ARR gear by just adding small bits of accuracy

or giving cleric stance boosted aim like the tank stances.

[This exact thing will happen again if we are able to customize Relics again when 3.15 hits. Yeah I know I'm whining, but accuracy really seems to punish only healers, since there isn't much a healer can do to have 100% accuracy like the other roles.]

[sirDarts]

IMO the accuracy system is absolutely stupid, and it's a useless stat. There should be no way for a skilled warrior (which we are, by definition) to MISS, unless the enemy avoids the attack, which should only happen by using certain skills.
Accuracy screws over healers, who want to DPS, and also DPS who get grouped with a bad tank, who spins the enemy and you end up attacking the front, which requires more ACC.
Getting your combo destroyed by a MISS is one of the most frustrating things that happens in this game, and it adds ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the gameplay.


And if nothing else, then Cleric Stance should add a bunch of Accuracy.

[iambanana]

not accuracy system is stupid

counting healer DPS for clearing content is just wrong, im not against healer DPSing, healer without DPSing is just bad and lazy. high DPS healer should be a bonus point for the healers, not the prequisite for clearing content. people will choose the best healer possible anyway.

but if you need a pentamelded crafted body piece for healer just to clearing content at the first place, thats dumb.

[AriaEnia]

SE decided to replace acc with det, spell speed or some others for in healer's gears.

[Miscreant]

not accuracy system is stupid

counting healer DPS for clearing content is just wrong, im not against healer DPSing, healer without DPSing is just bad and lazy. high DPS healer should be a bonus point for the healers, not the prequisite for clearing content. people will choose the best healer possible anyway.

but if you need a pentamelded crafted body piece for healer just to clearing content at the first place, thats dumb.

Ever thought that maybe the healers that meld do it for personal reasons and not just their raid, there's nothing wrong with wanting to play your role as effectively as possible.

Still let me know when you clear the last two Savage floors without healer dps or 210 weapons....

[sirDarts]

not accuracy system is stupid

counting healer DPS for clearing content is just wrong, im not against healer DPSing, healer without DPSing is just bad and lazy. high DPS healer should be a bonus point for the healers, not the prequisite for clearing content. people will choose the best healer possible anyway.

but if you need a pentamelded crafted body piece for healer just to clearing content at the first place, thats dumb.

Healer DPS is not required, and should not be required.
But it shouldn't be denied for absolutely no reason either.

There is NOTHING accuracy/hitrate adds to the gameplay, it just limits people, it's not adding difficulty, it's just tedious.

[Rawrz]

not accuracy system is stupid

counting healer DPS for clearing content is just wrong, im not against healer DPSing, healer without DPSing is just bad and lazy. high DPS healer should be a bonus point for the healers, not the prequisite for clearing content. people will choose the best healer possible anyway.

but if you need a pentamelded crafted body piece for healer just to clearing content at the first place, thats dumb.

I agree, but what also with what sirDarts said, I feel like healers shouldn't be wasting their time putting forth dps effort, only to miss, and be ineffecient by trying to be efficient with their entire toolkit. Stuff like expert roulette has lots of misses and that just hurts your soul. I don't think accuracy should be killed, but at the same time I want it to focus on something else.

[Warlyx]

Healer DPS is not required, and should not be required.
But it shouldn't be denied for absolutely no reason either.

There is NOTHING accuracy/hitrate adds to the gameplay, it just limits people, it's not adding difficulty, it's just tedious.

that was how it worked in 2.0 , the encounters were based around the idea of healers not dpsing (yet still could do it ), now in 3.0 SE decided to take into cosideration that healers will be dpsing at some points.....so now healers need to dps or u your dps/tanks need to be more geared , because alex savage is a huge dps check .

[Martin_Arcainess]

I don't mind the acr in the game, I wouldn't call it stupid just another stat you need to work on. And how you mention how we great warriors shouldn't miss then us great warriors shouldn't need to wait on average 2.5 seconds to hit the mob again.

It's just the system of combat and how the game is worked. I like acr for the main reason it's something to think about when getting your BIS, if you miss then you need more acr, simple as, just be grateful it's capped for certain encounters that once you get enough it will be 100%.

[Rawrz]

Healers can't cap accuracy.