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    Why are the "healers-must-only-heal" cultists on the DPS forum? Go back to the healer forum! Back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Not necessarily. If you tell people to trust you but they refuse to do so and want to rely on their own heals, you wouldn't believe how fast they start listening when you actually tell them "okay, go on, keep yourself alive, I'm not gonna bother" and they die and die and die with their 200 HP heal. Suddenly they realize "Oh hey, the healer actually IS better at keeping me alive, who'd have thought?!"
    I actually had a healer like this; They stopped healing me when I didn't break their dragoon friend's ooze on the last boss in AK Hard - The small one where you can still act and break yourself out, even as melee.

    They went out of their way to not buff me, not heal me, the whole nine yards.

    I healed myself just fine and we killed the boss just fine.

    So no.

    It doesn't make them trust you. I can tell you from experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Why are the "healers-must-only-heal" cultists on the DPS forum?
    Ehm..you do realize that this is not a "healers must only heal" thread but the exact opposite, right? It's a thread to raise awareness in dps players to not freak out when a healer DOES something besides healing 100% of the time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    AK Hard
    I healed myself just fine and we killed the boss just fine.
    People can solo lvl 50 content with our current gear levels, of course you can survive that fight without external healing unless you stand in every AoE possible. I solo healed the whole fight as BLM before, so not exactly a good example you have there..
    Except for, you know, the fight took longer then it needed to, in your case. Because every single heal + GCD you used up on healing yourself would have been a dmg spell, but you decided to waste it on spam healing yourself. Great job! /sarcasm off.
    (to be fair, you were kind of forced to, because the healer didn't heal you for a completely different reason. I only stop healing people - with an explanation why - if they stop dpsing to heal themselves when it's unnessecary)
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Ehm..you do realize that this is not a "healers must only heal" thre?
    If you've been reading the replies, you would have noticed something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    I actually had a healer like this; They stopped healing me when I didn't break their dragoon friend's ooze on the last boss in AK Hard - The small one where you can still act and break yourself out, even as melee.

    They went out of their way to not buff me, not heal me, the whole nine yards.

    I healed myself just fine and we killed the boss just fine.

    So no.

    It doesn't make them trust you. I can tell you from experience.
    If you gained aggro or step in an AoE in most dungeons, your dinky Mind stats as a DPS aren't going to help you much other than maybe a last ditch effort. I think the OP was talking more about people that constantly try to heal themselves during pulls when their HP goes a tiny bit down, not emergency heal because the healer is dead. It's the fact that every time you stand there casting Physik or whatever, you are wasting time by not DPSing, and only recovering a tiny bit of HP, literally like taking a Potion. So trust me, letting you die because every pull as soon as you take one hit you're spamming Physik because clearly you are capable of "healing yourself" definitely will make you stop. I can tell you THAT from experience as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    If you've been reading the replies, you would have noticed something
    I've been reading them, and I think most people just misunderstand and don't actually think it's bad when a healer does something else but healing. So many defensive replies talked about entirely different situations like "but my heals saved the day when the healer died!" or "our healer dc'ed but thanks to my healing the group survived". No one has any problem with that. What gets us mad is dps freaking out as soon as not everyone is at 100% HP at all times, and I'd like to think most people aren't actually stupid enough to request that of a healer, they just haven't realized yet that we are talking about entirely different situations.
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