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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    So because it's a fantasy games, no laws of reality apply to it? No, FFXIV has its own set of rules, you can't claim "but it's fantasy" on everything. How about our characters grow 10km long legs and just walk to other continents? It's just a fantasy game, right? Anything goes.
    I was talking about the use of "logic" part. Going by YOUR logic, Magitek should not be able to fly, but yet they do with this new update.


    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    none of them needs an "excuse" to fly besides Kirin and Magitek. all of the other ones already don't touch the ground or have wings.

    are you going to pay the devs overtime so other people can get what they want? flight animation doesn't grow on trees.

    Since when do people pay extra for Dev's to get things that they want?
    We already pay them for what they do. SE asks for our opinions and requests, we deliver them, and they implement them (or not) that is the sole reason why we get these mounts able to fly in the first place.
    Did you pay them extra for it?

    Slapping wings on Kirin and magitek was so hard it cannot be done on other mounts, right?! (/end sarcasm)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyHop View Post
    I was talking about the use of "logic" part. Going by YOUR logic, Magitek should not be able to fly, but yet they do with this new update.
    Why not? They're mechanical devices and we have several skilled engineers on hand that could modify it to make it fly I'm not mistaken. Seems pretty logical to me.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyHop View Post

    Slapping wings on Kirin and magitek was so hard it cannot be done on other mounts, right?! (/end sarcasm)
    Magitek is mechanical and probably modular. We had a quest to re-enable it's weapons, there's probably a quest to add flying capability to it. That's a hell lot more reasonsable than taking a generic hoarhound, naming it something, and making it fly (where as kirin, and by extension, primal ponies, are magical and mythic). Next thing you know you want flying gigantoads too, and no body likes that. Not even gigantoads.

    Unless they're allagan.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Why not? They're mechanical devices and we have several skilled engineers on hand that could modify it to make it fly I'm not mistaken. Seems pretty logical to me.
    Garleans had some skilled engineers as well, why didn't they make them fly then??


    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Magitek is mechanical and probably modular. We had a quest to re-enable it's weapons, there's probably a quest to add flying capability to it. That's a hell lot more reasonsable than taking a generic hoarhound, naming it something, and making it fly (where as kirin, and by extension, primal ponies, are magical and mythic). Next thing you know you want flying gigantoads too, and no body likes that. Not even gigantoads.

    Unless they're allagan.
    Hell lot more reasonable for YOU perhaps, but it doesn't mean that it has to apply to anyone else.

    You people act very hurt/defensive for something that wouldn't actually hurt anyone if the Fenrir mount could fly.
    It would be the same as me asking SE to change their plans and not implement these mounts as flying mounts but ask them to implement totally new flying mounts instead. I am sure that there are more people out there that are not a fan of these mounts, and if we all got support to make SE change their mind how would you like that?

    What I am trying to say here is, you can apply any logic you want. If SE wants, they can make every mount fly. Even if you personally wouldn't like some mounts be able to fly, some people do like it.
    We can all support eachother in ideas, it wouldn't hurt anyone.

    I personally don't like the Fenrir mount, I am just supporting the idea to make the mount more useful if you made so much effort to get it.
    I am sure SE can make something up to make them able to fly.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyHop View Post
    I was talking about the use of "logic" part. Going by YOUR logic, Magitek should not be able to fly, but yet they do with this new update.
    Now you're just twisting their words around. As Colorful said, despite the "fantasy" setting, it has its own set of rules to follow. It provides a nice cohesion between the art, the world's rules, and the themes. It makes everything look believable, even if it's fantastical. Flying Magitek mounts is believable because it's a machine that can be transfigured into a flight mode. Random primal skittles ponies that can suddenly fly because MAGIC or NOW WITH WINGS seems lazy.

    Payday 2 is basically what happens when you throw things in "for funsies".
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyHop View Post
    Garleans had some skilled engineers as well, why didn't they make them fly then??
    I don't know, why don't you ask them?

    That's the point though, it is logical and possible. Attaching wings to a living, normal creature? No, that isn't possible. If it were, I'd rather attach those wings to myself than a hideous hound to begin with.

    Edit: Because Heavenward wasn't out and there's no flying in 2.0 zones, the mythical GMs don't allow it and banished all Garleans who attempted to make them fly in 2.0 zones.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyHop View Post
    Garleans had some skilled engineers as well, why didn't they make them fly then??
    Because they aren't Allagan Engineers. And even then, you are attributing to that it's well possible for them to make something fly in game with a reasoning behind it (the garlean engineers). Unlike making Fefnir fly with absolutely no reasoning/logic other than so it can (slapping organic wings, or it's suddenly a magical hoarhound wolf that only flies for you and not in the wild)
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    I hope the Magitek's weapons still can be used while in flying mode. While they don't do any damage, I would love a chance to fly around blasting things like a pretend gunship.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    I'm pretty sure they will. If Twintania can still do a barrel roll in flight, then the magitek mounts can carpetbomb lalafells below.
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    Sooo, still no Magitek-Jetpack? Disappointing!

    Jokes aside, I'd be glad if SE would make it possible that you can use every mount when your chocobo is out. Technically, it could follow you (even flying), couldn't it?
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