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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    This is quite clearly a mythical lion in FFXIV...
    Actually, Kirin has been in many Final Fantasy games, but not because it's a Final Fantasy monster, just like how unicorns aren't a Final Fantasy monster even though they have been a staple creature in the series. Kirin's appearance in XI, though, has to be it's biggest departure from how the creature is classically depicted, but that's beside the point. The POINT is that Kirin don't fly with wings, they fly because they want to just like every other mythical creature of Asian origin that can fly. But fine, keep ignoring why people fully expected Kirin to fly and how your Fenrir isn't the same Fenrir from XI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuRoots View Post
    If the argument here is "One mount which doesn't normally fly can, THEREFORE MY FAVORITE MOUNT SHOULD BE ABLE TO FLY", then no. That's not how logic works.
    No one has successfully explained to me why it couldn't be applied to any mount that didn't directly contradict their exact defense on why it's OK for Kirin.

    That is the argument. How does logic explain to you why if you have enough aethaeric energy concentrated in one place you are able to summon a monster of unspeakable size and strength? Oh, right....cuz it's a game durp....



    And people keep calling Kirin magical...I only ever see it described as mythical, which is not the same thing. Hell, in the journal entry it calls the horn magical, but not Kirin. Something is going to made up or added lore-wise though to explain this, and apparently this is OK for everyone but it just somehow isn't for Fenrir. I don't get it.
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    I hate to burst anyone's rage bubble, but Fenrir really ought to be able to fly? He comes from Norse mythology, and he's not just any wolf, but the son of the giant Loki, who eats the moon at Ragnarok. He has to be able to fly in order to get to the moon.
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    PONY FARMING INTENSIFIES
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    When you see someones glamour with non matching boots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raxxon View Post
    I still think they should add an airship bladder to the tortoise with small rockets on the side of the shell so it can fly
    Or just call your local Acme retailer and:

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    I think the big thing here isn't Kirin cause there's nothing anyone can say about it that can debunk millennia of myth and legend. The big thing here is Fenrir. The Fenrir of XIV is not the Fenrir of prior titles. In a couple prior Final Fantasy titles Fenrir was a summon, you didn't really call him unless you wanted to bring the hurt on some mobs. You didn't call him to carry you around. In XIV he's just a mob, a powerful boss-level mob but just a mob. That means if he doesn't fly, he doesn't fly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukha View Post
    I hate to burst anyone's rage bubble, but Fenrir really ought to be able to fly? He comes from Norse mythology, and he's not just any wolf, but the son of the giant Loki, who eats the moon at Ragnarok. He has to be able to fly in order to get to the moon.
    Except the mount description clearly states the mount is not the real Fenrir, but just an ordinary wolf of a species called 'hoarhounds' that formerly occuppied Coerthas only to disappear when Ishgard was founded, but due to climate change have returned. They are a species, not a a single entity:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamerescape FFXIV Wiki, quoting the mount description for the Fenrir mount in the Mount Guide
    Following the rise of Ishgard, hoarhounds all but disappeared from the Coerthas highlands. However, the shift in climate caused by the Calamity has seen the legendary beasts descend from their mountain dens once more.
    The item description for the actual Fenrir Horn also states that the particular specimen that is the mount was captured, broken in to be ridden on, and given the name of 'a famous Alpha male of a Coerthan wolf pack' (i.e. the last boss of Snowcloak), possibly to help make it more attractive to 'customers' at the Gold Saucer:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamerescape FFXIV Wiki, quoting the item description for the Fenrir Horn
    A gilded horn that when blown, summons a purebred Abalathian hoarhound mount named after its pack's legendary leader.
    Either way, the Fenrir mount is not the Norse Fenrir, nor is it the traditional FF summon. It's... just a plain ordinary wolf. So again, coming back to the point of this arguement, asking the Fenrir mount to fly would be a conceptual nightmare. It just would not make sense.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 10-22-2015 at 09:12 AM.

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    Yea I can picture Ifrits pony with fire wings!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KfLeX View Post
    Yea I can picture Ifrits pony with fire wings!
    Didn't need wings in Krull, just a convenient cliff to gallop from.
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    They should have at let all the mounts fly. It's no big deal, just fun for whoever likes those mounts and wants to fly on them. And for mounts that are too ridiculous to fly, just tie some bomb balloons to them and let them float along. Done!
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