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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    It's about a slight annoyance in content that can be slept through, in a niche scenario (RE: The Dark Knight is bad and starting a pull almost oom), and pointing the blame at someone for doing what has stylistically been their job since Wanderer's Palace Normal.
    Yes, but it has also been the Drks since level 35 so they are doing what has been their job too. (spending MP and getting returns to spend more MP) Hence where the conflict comes into play. It doesn't make the DRK bad if they haven't had encounters with the very small pool of WHMs that actually utilize that ability, if at all. Likewise it doesn't make the WHM bad if they didn't know BP was a thing. It goes both ways.

    You say it is shifting blame, yet assume the DRK is being bad... is that not shifting blame? (or did I misunderstand what you were pointing at there?)

    I don't think it is a bad thing to build awareness on the ability in general for healers... that enter duty finder and are finding fresh DRKs in their runs. However I wish they would just lock this thread. It is really going in circles.

    Simply put, BP is a DRK move that they receive at level 35 and ALWAYS use it. Holy is a move that whms get, but don't consistently use it, if at all. So shit happens.

    If a DRK settles, waiting for the holy.. it doesn't come and they decide to Drain massive amounts of MP expecting a return from BP then the whm decides to holy... it sucks, especially if the mobs die quick enough that you have to wait for MP before next pull thus nullifying any DPS gain from holy.

    That is the short and long of it. Which brings me to my initial point.... just be aware of what is going on.

    And just to clarify, I am not supporting the idea of using a macro for this.....


    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    Every healer has something that can interfere with BP: Holy, SF, CO. Why not make a whine thread about changing BP mechanics rather than yell at every healer to accommodate your unaccommodating playstyle?<se.1>
    I know I personally wasn't whining to healers to accommodate play style, can't speak for anyone else. Just to be aware if people were having a hard time and let them know BP is a thing they should be aware of and that DRKs use it often and sometimes rely on it and or get used to using it... (because not all WHMs use holy) It would be redic to expect Holy whms to not holy on every BP that was up, BP has a fairly short CD. (40s) so again, situational. If any of what I said came across in that way it was completely unintended.

    I don't get the correlation of: No holy = dead tanks though, there are 2 other healers that can't aoe stun like this and tanks live (excluding CO because of the long CD however CO could also be a surprise lol and also excluding SF because the effect on BP is so small.), even whms that don't holy and tanks live. (I realize you said be ready with cool downs so you are acknowledging that.) That is kind of basic tanking 101 that doesn't change no matter which tank you play. If the DRK is both having MP issues and not popping defensive cool downs, then words are in order LOL especially considering they have a line up similar to that of PLD.

    The MP cost spikes for DRK a lot in the last few levels reaching level 60 so it takes time to get used to that.
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    Last edited by Imoen; 10-22-2015 at 08:20 AM.