Time on House removal/reclaming is way to short! (private houseing)

[Anova]

Technically, players have paid for the house and the land in full. Owners before never had to pay this extra money to maintain the houses, and banks cannot suddenly start charging you a monthly fee after the contract's been signed and the money paid.

What this is, is a government taxation law coupled with eminent domain. I know it's a technicality, but essentially it's a change in government law that is increasing taxes on the land owners. The government then pays the owner fair market value for the house (usually much lower than what you expected, what a surprise), and then takes the land from you to do with it whatever it wants (because the land you live on and paid for is still technically your government's).

Also, I don't see understand this myth about multi-home owners being cheaters. They got around the system early on it's true, and it is a little unfair for them to own two houses when so many people are without, but I wouldn't call anything they did as a cheat (unless they actually bought gil or RMT'd).

[Vidu]

Technically, players have paid for the house and the land in full.

Oh really? They've paid in gil, our in-game currency. So if SE would start charging us more gil that statment would make more sense. I'm looking at this way: While I earned the right to have a house (or earned enough gil... however you want to express that) all the data is still stored at the servers of SE - and those arent running for free. I'm paying real money for my sub and for that service - that not only include the housing but a lot of other stuff... but with SE always saying "we cant add more storage because servers cant handle it" I feel a bit... bitter about people saying "hey, I wont pay for your service - so please store all my data for free until I come back!". I'm not an expert on programming but I would suppose that its a lot more stress on the server to store a house (with furniture) than you retainers/personal inventory. But with housing being such a limited thing... npt paying for the service? Let someone have it who is paying for it then!

It might would be some sort of a compromiss for personal homes to give the "power" of resetting the timer to everyone you've marked as a "friend of the house" (sorry, no better way to put it right now - what I'm meaning by that: The system they wanted to add to share the house with a few people that you would have to pick first - therefor it would be like a small FC)

[Shirobi]

45 days is wayyyy to short. That basically means I have to play FFXIV or else now. If cant take any time off without losing my home!

That's horrible SE!

This needs to be like 6 months, or 3 months at the shortest!

This feels like black mail since anyone might have to stop playing for a few months and you arent even giving them two full pay periods to take a break in!

Is this how you plan on keeping your customers long term? Blackmail?

This is pathetic.

[Rufalus]

I don't mind if they increase the timer later on to more than 45 days, but that first wave of booting can't come soon enough lol. Lots of home owners quit the game up to 2 years ago and we've been eyeing those abandoned plots ever since.

basically means I have to play FFXIV or else now. If cant take any time off without losing my home!

I feel it's fair for homes go to players of the game, not people who dabble on occasion. If your investment in the game is so little that you have periods where you will voluntarily unsubscribe and not log in for over a month, then the home can be taken by a more dedicated player who supports the game.

Personally I play every day and will keep doing so unless something interferes such as computer failure, lack of money or unforeseen commitments arising, and if those things happen I would just have to accept my 80% return on investment and an active player taking my plot.

[Zorlinta]

45 days is fine only if your suscription is paid each month, but is not fair for we that suscribed and pay each 90days. Fix it to 90+ days.

And certainly the land price is very cheap in relation to all items non-refundables that are placed in. Its not fair that..

[SendohJin]

In a final note. This is only step 1 in fixing housing. You will be able to assign friends co-ownership of your house who can help keep it alive if you have to go overseas or something. People are forgetting this system they are adding.

the house sharing feature gives other people access, nothing they have said implies those people become "co-owners". nothing about housing removal says those people count. the reclamation note specifically says "accessed by the owner".

sure the notes can be wrong, but i'm not going to make that assumption when what has been said does not suggest that.

[Shirobi]

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Too bad. You should have been an early supporter and had the money ready to go when the housing was originally available.

This is screwing over dedicated, long term players for newbies.

[Anova]

SE can charge you blah blah blah

I'm not really arguing that SE is incorrect here or that they shouldn't charge players for the extra memory. I'm just saying the analogy to mortgage and foreclosure is incorrect and that a more appropriate analogy is property tax and eminent domain.

[Kyri]

My biggest concern with this is that 1.5 months isn't much time for someone with a personal to replace a PC/Ps3/4 who doesn't make a lot or has a family if it was to break down. Originally when they thought about this idea way back when they were thinking around 3 months to loose a land. 3 months is a much more reasonable period of time for someone to replace a console/PC and not have to refer to trying to trust a friend with account information(which is against Tos) until they can confirm that the people you "add" as "Co-owners" to your personal can also save your house. At the moment the notice states "Only the owner". So until that's changed to say owner or those they add as co-owners to the home, or closer to 3 months inactivity I would be very concerned if my PC was to break down, because I for one can not afford to loose $500-$1000 for a new one within a period of 45 days. Im aware that even with 60-90 days some would still complain but people will always complain. Im concerned with the fact these consoles and computers -do- break down and cost a lot of money.

[Shirobi]

My biggest concern with this is that 1.5 months isn't much time for someone with a personal to replace a PC/Ps3/4 who doesn't make a lot or has a family if it was to break down. Originally when they thought about this idea way back when they were thinking around 3 months to loose a land. 3 months is a much more reasonable period of time

Exactly. That this is happening at all is absurd, but 45 days? Less than 2 payment periods? That's insane. Basically if you have a hardware problem, well, bye bye house unless you can immediately get it fixed.