Reclamation of Inactive Housing announced

[LaylaTsarra]

What I have to say about this:Or better, just let them keep it as long as there's an active subscription, and use the 45 days rule only if there's no sub. Keep in mind that we can't give someone else our account so that they log in with it in that situation, as it's against the ToS, so you would be SOL.

I personally agree with this. If you're paying for an active subscription you should be entitled to keep whatever you own. I don't personally agree with the idea that you have to personally visit it to keep it. There are many circumstances in life where people will be away for longer than 45 days, and if they're paying for the sub, they should keep whatever is a part of it. I doubt many who don't intend to play the game would pay the sub fee in order to keep personal housing.

[Geesus]

- 45 days for personal housing is not enough.

One, you're getting an email and notified. Even if you can't play, you are being told. It's better than just having to remember you haven't logged in in X days and losing your house. It's honestly something those of us who have spoken about this never thought of so, good for SE being on point. Second, if they made it longer then 45 days, someone else would come along and say that isn't enough time so SE is damned if they do. Damned if they don't.

Yeah RL takes precedence but if you have RL issues going on, losing your in game housing is the least of your worries. You'll get 80%, EIGHTY percent of your cost back. Losing those other items does suck but, that would happen even if you wanted to upgrade or downgrade or didn't care and left your house. Personally not a fan of that in general but, thems da rules. xD

[Ashkendor]

No. Certain people asked for this feature, namely people without homes, who just wanted to have them.

Nah. I've thought this feature was needed for awhile and I own two houses (FC and personal).

Argument 1 Was already beaten here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3378983

I'm assuming you're talking about this portion of the post and not the alarmist nonsense about hungry wolves:

There are 92,160 houses on all servers, which is nearly synonymous with saying there are now 92,160 subscribers who will always be subscribers to this game. Even if one of them decides to quit, another will take their place and stay just to keep their house. They just ensured they will always maintain a healthy income, nothing more.

That doesn't "beat" my argument at all though because that's the entire point to what I said. I personally stick around for the game itself. I do enjoy housing, but that isn't what keeps my subscription active. If at some point I decide I'm unsubscribing, it will be because either I have quit the game voluntarily or I have run into real life money problems that prevent me from subscribing to the game. Either way, I will lose my house and someone that is still actively subscribing will have the opportunity to have the plot for themselves. Whether that be through me giving it to a friend that's still playing the game or through it getting reclaimed through the system, the key there is that the plot will become available to an active player if I myself become inactive for one reason or another.

Argument 2 Was beaten in post 81, but here's a recap: If they had a plan to solve availability, they wouldn't need this measure at all. The very existence of this measure indicates that they have no plan or intention of solving availability.

All you're really saying here is that since they haven't announced their plan in full, you don't believe that it actually exists. That just means you apparently don't think something exists until it's right in front of you. I mean, believe what you want about being able to take SE's announcements at face value, but that doesn't really win any arguments. Until they say that housing plans they've already said they are working on (including wards in Ishgard, additional wards in the existing housing areas, etc) are scrapped, there's no reason to believe that they are nonexistent.

[StouterTaru]

Not quite sure where you're getting "thousands", but if we had even one thousand times the wards we currently do, that would be 92,160,000 houses, which is pretty much overkill. Ten times our current wards would put us at 921,160, which would potentially cover every player who even wants and can afford a house.

The use of thousands was hyperbole.

Rewording his suggestion of dynamic housing to include "capable of providing a house for every character and FC that wants and can afford it" without implementing a reclaim system still has issues.
-Ten times more would go very quick on some servers, and require an upgrade to server capacity larger than the HW expansion
-Depending on what he meant by "dynamic housing," it could be a downgrade of the current housing system, which "unfairly punishes" current housing owners
-Without a removal system, housing will continue to grow at an unsustainable rate

[Yshnal]

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But there's solutions for that. I proposed two, and I'm sure that there's more. "Suck it up" is not one of them, or at least it shouldn't, the same way that it's not a solution for those that want a house and can't have it right now.

If something can be improved, why can't we talk about how to improve it instead of just accepting it the way it is? It's SE the ones that have to decide if they can/want to do something or not.

[Sicno]

[Dree-Elle]

That's players' own fault for refusing to run Mog EX synced anymore. All Primal parts have risen astronomically in price. Unless SE decides to throw a bone and make boss drops link with unsync, there's nothing that can be done about that.

[Gralna]

Fully support this, as a home owner.

[Dante_V]

The personal house reclamation should be 65 - 75 days. This is kind of a kick in the face especially when they are doing 5 months between content updates. They've essentially alienated anyone who cannot be constantly subscribed from the entire housing experience in a half hearted effort to fix something that is still completely broken. The bottom line is that 99% of the people in this thread without a house, still won't have one after reclamation due to the insane demand.

Oh you wanted a house?
Well so do another 3,000 people on your server. Look one just opened up!
Your chance of getting it is about the same or less than winning the jumbo cactpot. Good luck!

[Lexia]

What about active duty military members sent overseas for months at a time. They are being punished with this.

Get a care taker for it if it that important to you. Family member, friend someone you trust enough that can log on once a month that takes like 2 minutes. Then they can log off go continue with their life and you get to keep your house.