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    Player kamikrazy's Avatar
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    Jetei Avagnar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaperking386 View Post
    It is better than nothing at the moment. It is too late to restrict 1 house per account and the Ishguard housing is not ready for housing yet for 3.1.
    Actually, no, this is worse than nothing. This is indicative that they have no plan or intention of fixing housing availability. If they had a plan they wouldn't have spent the manpower to implement this because it, in the long run, would have been irrelevant.

    This system proves by its very existence that they have no plan or intention of fixing housing availability. If they had a plan, they wouldn't waste their time and money implementing this. They'd have just announced their plan to placate customers. This is very bad.
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    Ertai Spelldragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamikrazy View Post
    Actually, no, this is worse than nothing. This is indicative that they have no plan or intention of fixing housing availability. If they had a plan they wouldn't have spent the manpower to implement this because it, in the long run, would have been irrelevant.

    This system proves by its very existence that they have no plan or intention of fixing housing availability. If they had a plan, they wouldn't waste their time and money implementing this. They'd have just announced their plan to placate customers. This is very bad.
    Do you have a better plan?

    We are the ones who asked for this btw. Every forums literally asked about afk housing and giving an eviction notice to free up housing. Hell, At least square is nice enough to send you 2 emails of eviction and refund 80%.
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamikrazy View Post
    Actually, no, this is worse than nothing. This is indicative that they have no plan or intention of fixing housing availability. If they had a plan they wouldn't have spent the manpower to implement this because it, in the long run, would have been irrelevant.

    This system proves by its very existence that they have no plan or intention of fixing housing availability. If they had a plan, they wouldn't waste their time and money implementing this. They'd have just announced their plan to placate customers. This is very bad.
    What are you talking about? They clearly said that this system was the first step to make more plot available. They'll either add more plots to the existing cities or they'll open Ishgard.

    Besides, your 1.8% thing is completly wrong since it doesn't take FC into account. I'm a FC leader and we do have a house... but according to you, we don't? Even if you are talking about individual houses you're wrong since FC and individual players share the same plots.

    So not only you clearly don't know what you're talking about in the first place, but you also support wrong arguments and calculations just for the sake of arguing on something you hate for some reason. Stop it or bring actual objective facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamikrazy View Post
    This doesn't fix the problem, this just needlessly punishes the players who got houses

    This isn't going to work when every estate is owned by someone who doesn't leave it be for 45 days, in a year or so everyone will once again not be able to buy houses, and all this will do is annoy people and feel like a cheap gimmick to force you to keep playing the game every month even if you want to take a break from it

    Terrible choice, I'm very dissapointed in this awful design decision
    It is better than nothing at the moment. Ishguard is not ready to open and you can't just kick people out of houses because Square failed to make a rule on how many houses your alts can own.
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    Frankly, I'd much prefer that SE just faced facts and acknowledged that their server tech simply can't accommodate the neighborhood vision that the devs have and implemented instanced housing. It's really weird that they invest as much effort as they do into systems tied to housing content (gardening, airships, furniture, etc.) when only a small fraction of the playerbase, by design, is in any position to take advantage of them. What we have here is a band aid fix. A good and overdue band aid fix mind you, but a band aid fix.
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Quote Originally Posted by XLauncher View Post
    Frankly, I'd much prefer that SE just faced facts and acknowledged that their server tech simply can't accommodate the neighborhood vision that the devs have and implemented instanced housing. It's really weird that they invest as much effort as they do into systems tied to housing content (gardening, airships, furniture, etc.) when only a small fraction of the playerbase, by design, is in any position to take advantage of them. What we have here is a band aid fix. A good and overdue band aid fix mind you, but a band aid fix.
    THIS. So much this. -_-

    Also mind this little detail:
    The count for days of inactivity will begin on the release of patch 3.1.
    ...so, plots that have been abandoned for half a year or even longer, will still be unavailable for another one and a half month after 3.1 hits, whenever that happens. Way to go. -_-
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamikrazy View Post
    This doesn't fix the problem, this just needlessly punishes the players who got houses
    It does indeed fix the problem of houses being unavailable to people who want them because someone took up the plot and then quit the game or decided to take an extended vacation of several months. It won't solve the problem of there never being enough houses to go around (that's another issue all together), but it's better than what we have right now by far.

    It also doesn't really "punish" anyone. The personal housing timer could probably stand to be longer, but if you can't log in and enter the house at least once every 45 days (especially if you're voluntarily gone so long you'd have to do that more than once) the house doesn't really seem to mean all that much to you. On the flip side the FC timer is probably too long. If a FC owns a house and no one enters it for 45 days it's pretty clear none of them have any intention of coming back and the house is of no use to them.

    Still, I suppose I can see how it may sting to a personal house owner since there are things that may drive you away from the game for 45+ days that are outside of your control, but keeping such a finite resource tied up in limbo isn't very fair to the active players either regardless of why the original homeowner hasn't been using it.

    This isn't going to work when every estate is owned by someone who doesn't leave it be for 45 days, in a year or so everyone will once again not be able to buy houses...
    No, but at least people will have a little peace of mind knowing that even though the houses are unavailable, at least they're being used. Way better than passing by a house you know no one has been in in months and knowing that's it's permanently stuck in limbo.

    ... and all this will do is annoy people and feel like a cheap gimmick to force you to keep playing the game every month even if you want to take a break from it

    Terrible choice, I'm very dissapointed in this awful design decision
    Less of a "cheap gimmick" to make money and more an attempt to be fair to their active players. It's SE's fault for giving us such a limited housing system, but until they change it (if they ever change it...) this is the next best thing for dealing with delinquent homeowners.

    This is a change that's been asked for for a very long time. And it's a good one unless you think letting abandoned plots sit around and take up space is a good thing just because someone wants to take an extended vacation and might come back a few months later.

    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    ...so, plots that have been abandoned for half a year or even longer, will still be unavailable for another one and a half month after 3.1 hits, whenever that happens. Way to go. -_-
    Probably to give players a chance to come back for 3.1 before destroying their house. It would suck if a player who was planning to sub back full-time for 3.1 returned to find their house already vaporized with minimal warning. Though at the same time if an entire FC hasn't been seen for over 45 days even before 3.1 I wouldn't feel any sympathy if their house vanished today.
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    What happen if I Demolish the House myself and get a permit for it. Like how people sale their house. Do I get to keep the House forever with this method? I'm curious because there some people who already demolish their house and trying to sale it already.
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