why are minion drops so rare?

[Lilith_Merquise]

We don't exactly know if they're going to make them extremely common as of yet, so there's no need to jump the gun there. But it all depends, are these minions going to be incredibly powerful in Lords of Verminion? If the answer is yes, I believe the increase in drop rate it justified.

lolwut? That is the opposite of MMO Value:Effort Reward ratio... If something is strong or really good, you don't increase the drop rate making it more access able to everyone... you make that thing hard as heck to get because it becomes a symbol of status and game dedication to have it... If we just handed out the best to people that show up, then it wouldn't be the best, it would be the standard... That is what it means to establish a dedicated fan base that plays consistently rather then only playing for a few weeks and unsubbing until the next big boon... I know WoW players don't get this, but 11 players know that philosophy of content is unsustainable...

[Colorful]

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If it was a PvE environment I'd agree, but Lords of Virminion is entirely focused on PvP with PvE "training" modes. This is an issue that has plagued WoW's PvP for a long time, you go in as a newbie into a random BG and you're greeted with players that are twice as powerful as you. You could be significantly more skilled, but you will be obliterated unless they're downright awful at the game. This is why Frontlines has an iLVL cap, this is why they're getting rid of PvP gear with stats and turning it into mostly cosmetics in WoW's latest expansion. No one wants to go into the game and be destroyed because they're new, a competitive environment is meant to balanced and reliant on skill, not reliant on whoever has played the longest and has the best equipment. But if you don't understand that, I'm not going to bother arguing this. As stated, there is no fair grind in these minions, someone could get it on the 1st attempt, and someone else on their 1000th attempt.

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Well I don't know about getting Kirin in a few days, set up several Titan parties where I waited 1.5+ hours for the party to fill, everyone got their ponies several times but me because someone had to leave. I'm putting the Kirin on hold for now, can't take that kind of frustration personally. I do agree there needs to be something that people can go after, right now there's only Fenrir. I want to see more things like Fenrir, they don't really on RNG (mostly, that can speed things up though), but with a guaranteed goal you can work towards, be it in one week or over the course of a year.

[Lilith_Merquise]

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1. That is the whole reason why they are changing the matchmaking to be based on a rank system as opposed to the current system that plops you in regardless of it due to the queing by nation.
2. Exactly, which is why in a competitive environment, players learn the basics before they are given the BFG. If that was the case, why even make it so you have to earn anything in this game. Just make it so that you get to the level and instantly get delivered the BiS for that level in your inbox.
3. That is the point of "Gear Lust"! When you see a dude get something you've been killing yourself for it pisses you off because you're comparing yourself to that person and it makes you want to be better then them. Which incentivizes you to get it. If it doesn't then you're not competitive anyway and the gear treadmill is perfect for you. So competing for higher content doesn't matter and shouldn't be dumbed down.