why are minion drops so rare?

[Yukiko]

There is no long term goal if players just stop trying and ignore the pets!
There is no handing over and even then with the old dungeons where it always was in one chest you had to roll against others!
Collecting doesnt mean to gather the rarest things or to show who is better, its to get a Set of a certain thing...
To make it rare is only for "sellers" and not for "collectors"...
There is no meaning in making it too hard to get because it will not increase motivation to run older dungeons, it will decrease motivation to ever make that dungeon again when it finally dropped...
Worse: You have to force friends to come along the same old boring dungeon over and over again just that YOU getting an item - they will like you for that...

[Lilith_Merquise]

We’re planning to increase the rate in which you can obtain some of the rarer minions, so players can also use them to further enjoy Lord of Verminion in Patch 3.1.

Please leave them be..... Let people want things and NOT get them just because they decided to show up and do the event. Stop making participation prizes and start making things people lust after. The whole point of taking pride in having rarer minions is that they are RARE. If everyone had them then what is the point? Which is essentially much of the frustration with this game. Just because you do it doesn't mean you should get something for it, you should get a chance yes, much like ponies, but it definitely shouldn't be a high one. It makes all the frustration with wanting the ponies a far better pay off when they actually get them.

[zosia]

And since it's not hard work, increasing the drop rates won't affect the hard work needed to get the minions either, since neither way to get them equals hard work, increasing the drop rates just makes both roads equally less tedious. Glad we've reached an understanding.

You point rest on a terrible premise that increasing drops rates will have no effect on prices. Good try though.

Please leave them be..... Let people want things and NOT get them just because they decided to show up and do the event. Stop making participation prizes and start making things people lust after. The whole point of taking pride in having rarer minions is that they are RARE. If everyone had them then what is the point? Which is essentially much of the frustration with this game. Just because you do it doesn't mean you should get something for it, you should get a chance yes, much like ponies, but it definitely shouldn't be a high one. It makes all the frustration with wanting the ponies a far better pay off when they actually get them.

That will be the death of this game. There is nothing compelling about a race where everyone gets the same ribbons and trophies. People just want their instant gratification and damn the consequences or implication. I completely agree with you and I have no idea why this dev team wants everything in this game to cater to the lowest common denominator.

We might as well just have our characters turned into premade characters with all the gear, minions, furniture, etc etc preloaded into our inventory and logs. What's the point of even putting any effort into this game? It's not a hyperbolic question at this point. Whats the point of putting effort into anything in this game when you can wait a few months and everything will be nerfed for the lowest common denominator?

Just more people defending the easy way out, per the usual around here.

[Kolaina]

much like ponies

maybe if minions followed ponies then sure. untradable which means unsellable so collectors can have their joy, and those only in it for profit cant get greedy.

knew a guy who rolled and won a pony he already had. couldnt even remove the whistle from his inventory permanently losing a slot. make this happen too

[Lilith_Merquise]

It is dumb luck and nothing else, completely independant of and unrelated to any actual work or effort you put in the game. Nobody is 'special' for having a rare minion, nor is anyone 'impressed' by you having one. It doesn't mean you're skilled at the game at all. It means you just had dumb luck and nothing else.

You're skilled because you didn't just beat it ONE TIME and get it, then never do it again. Not only did you beat it to win the RNG, but you perfected it to essentially speed it or even do it flawless. Like the difference between horrible PUG groups and FC groups doing Ravana EX. RNG is what separated not a lot of content in 11, lasting for a very long time and being one of the largest dedicated playerbases of an MMO game in History, and SE's most profitable game of all time.

Just because it's in the game, doesn't mean you need to be the first one to get it because you pay your subscription...

[AlphaFox]

Well with how much SE loves gil sinks, I recall one game where you could offer up items and cash to increase drops of a dungeon. Toss up X amount of gil to increase the odds of chests containing more gear or in this case the minions.

[Lilith_Merquise]

maybe if minions followed ponies then sure. untradable which means unsellable so collectors can have their joy, and those only in it for profit cant get greedy.

knew a guy who rolled and won a pony he already had. couldnt even remove the whistle from his inventory permanently losing a slot. make this happen too

I would agree with you, but quite frankly the market in this game is absolutely atrocious. There is nothing worth selling that people have a demand for. The only things that sell are, Glamour, Minions, and House Decorations. There isn't a point in purchasing anything else in this game, and to take away another means of profit for the market would just be horrendous. I'm not crazy about a player buying their way to exclusivity, but it is a necessary evil

[WinterLuna]

I am kind of tired of rare things becoming common in this game. The whole point of having them is because they are uncommon. Sure, it's nice for everyone to have them, but if everyone was standing around with the same minion, it kind of takes the fun out of it in the first place.

Almost every achievement in this game becomes less and less appealing. Mounts, minions, completing raids and dungeons.. They all get nerfed or become easier to get. Honestly - why is it fair that someone spent hours and hours farming ponies for Kirin, and someone spent a day, yet they both have the exact same reward?

[Colorful]

I am kind of tired of rare things becoming common in this game. The whole point of having them is because they are uncommon. Sure, it's nice for everyone to have them, but if everyone was standing around with the same minion, it kind of takes the fun out of it in the first place.

Almost every achievement in this game becomes less and less appealing. Mounts, minions, completing raids and dungeons.. They all get nerfed or become easier to get. Honestly - why is it fair that someone spent hours and hours farming ponies for Kirin, and someone spent a day, yet they both have the exact same reward?

Well I don't know about you and everyone else, but I don't care for minions because they're rare, I care about owning them because they're cool and cute. Come Verminion and I'll have even more reason to own them, not everyone is obsessed with obtaining things because they're "rare". I was upset that they absolutely butchered the relic quest with 3.0 at first, after spending hundreds of hours it was gut wrenching to find that my weapon was not only worthless, but the glamour was no longer something special, but I got over it. I realized that not everyone wants to spend 200 hours farming the same content over and over again, and I'm one of them. I have benefited from drop rates being increased, and I think the experience from those boosts are much better than without.

[WinterLuna]

@Colorful, I'm not 'obsessed' with things because they're rare, but making things extremely common when they used to be hard to get takes away the incentive for some people. As I said, it is nice for everyone to own cute minions, but SE don't need to make everything easily obtainable. Some things should be kept rare, while some things can be easily obtained because they're nice to have. Not everything has to be easy to get.