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  1. #31
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    WinterLuna's Avatar
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    Indira Light
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    Twintania
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    Astrologian Lv 69
    The current cross class healer spells are weak on purpose because DPS aren't meant to be able to heal effectively.

    Healers disconnecting and forcing people to wait any longer than 5 minutes doesn't happen often enough for them to need to implement this, and if the healer is bad, having DPS heal isn't going to fix anything. The healer won't learn anything and in fact would be babied even more by having the DPS do the work for them.

    Sorry, but I don't think this is a good idea.
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  2. #32
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    Archaell's Avatar
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    Arch Idealist
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    Alpha
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypa View Post
    No thanks. I don't flag as DPS in order to heal.
    I don't flag as healer in order to dps either >.> Just had to say it.

    Kudos to you tho, it is annoying enough when dps try to heal with their silly cross-class skills.
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  3. #33
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    Winry Foxtail
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KineticSoul View Post
    I really can't argue with that, but I have seen so many pro heals just bait and heal if a tank goes down and can't get up in time. Those are some of my favorite saves actually. If a tank goes down and the healer can bait long enough for me to cast a Resurrection, we can sometimes pull off a pretty cool comeback. Something like that is really all I'm suggesting here.
    I'm not talking about mistakes with a comeback situation. I'm talking about atrocious tanks where the entire run is going to suck every which way. A bad tank is far, far worse than a bad healer.
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  4. #34
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    Drivont O'raguille
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 56
    I also think that ALL the casters should be able to crossclass a raise of sorts (BLM should get resurrect, that sounds black magey) and the trait to allow raising during battle. Give it to BLM at lvl 56, PLD at 44 something like that... when a healer wipes, it should not be the end-all to a run... those are just my thoughts though
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  5. #35
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    KineticSoul's Avatar
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    Caim Albane
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Okay, so I should probably just never cast Resurrection as a SMN when someone goes down then. Because, ya know, I'm not queued as a healer.

    But no, that's stupid right. I have Resurrection. I can cross class Swiftcast. It's great utility that's helpful.

    I have Physick. But being able to possibly throw on Cleric Stance for some temporary boosts to heals to save lives... That's just crossing the line. Got it.

    Besides, SMN has SO many more useful cross class skills! Who would even want to put on Cleric Stance when there's Quelling Strike and Blizzard II!
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  6. #36
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drivont View Post
    I also think that ALL the casters should be able to crossclass a raise of sorts (BLM should get resurrect, that sounds black magey) and the trait to allow raising during battle. Give it to BLM at lvl 56, PLD at 44 something like that... when a healer wipes, it should not be the end-all to a run... those are just my thoughts though
    Sorry but this is completely ridiculous and would mean you could walk through content with near to no difficulty unless it was an insta wipe. There just isn't a need for it.
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  7. #37
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    I've saved a number of runs spamming Physick with BLM.
    I wouldn't want to see this as an expected turnabout.
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    http://king.canadane.com

  8. #38
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Drivont View Post
    I also think that ALL the casters should be able to crossclass a raise of sorts (BLM should get resurrect, that sounds black magey) and the trait to allow raising during battle. Give it to BLM at lvl 56, PLD at 44 something like that... when a healer wipes, it should not be the end-all to a run... those are just my thoughts though
    So then why would a healer need Raise if everyone and their chocobo can do it?
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  9. #39
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    Ksenia's Avatar
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Sargatanas
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    Weaver Lv 100
    Instead of all the wipe buffs you get like HP and heals, add Magic and Physical Defense each time a party wipes. Wipes happen because people at full health get caught in decimation hits that even at full health they won't survive and the Healer is the most vulnerable. They could offer more than out, no dmg and in boom you're dead too. Inner rings 100%, outer rings 50%. So if a healer doesn't clear an AoE they still have a survival factor.
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1445972/

  10. #40
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    Drivont O'raguille
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    Sorry but this is completely ridiculous and would mean you could walk through content with near to no difficulty unless it was an insta wipe. There just isn't a need for it.
    You have weakness and 0 mp when raised... I don't see how it's allowing you to "walk through content"

    at the VERY least though, a PALADIN should be able to raise in combat... THAT could be a balanced thing... they ARE "holy defenders" after all, and being able to raise an ally during combat fits the role. I sit on tons of extra mp sometimes when people ARE wiping, it would at least be a nice trait to get at higher levels.

    heck, even giving a WHM reraise.... but i'm not sure how it could be implemented to be balanced.
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    Last edited by Drivont; 10-14-2015 at 06:26 AM.

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