The issue nobody wants to address

[Fevelle]

Like I said "if someone isn't on top of their rotations or DPS, but can still pull enough to clear the content without embarassing anyone" is okay, but that was not the case with your example. And yes, that's what the kick is for, because that person is probably a troll, since dungeons are doable with very minimum requirements.

[Archaell]

Like I said "if someone isn't on top of their rotations or DPS, but can still pull enough to clear the content without embarassing anyone" is okay, but that was not the case with your example. And yes, that's what the kick is for, because that person is probably a troll, since dungeons are doable with very minimum requirements.

Even with parser players would still be able to play without embarassing anyone. Right know you get immunity to being exposed for your insufficient contribution. Not cool. I wonder how many players would be willing to do that if the whole team would see how much work their put in, and how much of they work they leave to others.

[Whiteroom]

Like I said "if someone isn't on top of their rotations or DPS, but can still pull enough to clear the content without embarassing anyone" is okay, but that was not the case with your example. And yes, that's what the kick is for, because that person is probably a troll, since dungeons are doable with very minimum requirements.

This thread is about those people, and responses like your original one. You may not realise just how many are out there. It's pretty crazy how many people don't even do half of what would be considered max dps for their class. This is what the thread is about, and how it's taboo to ask the to contribute in any meaninful way.

For about the millionth time in this thread, people aren't saying you have to be playing at world first level, even say 70% of maximum would be fine, and thats pretty easy.

The funny thing is people think the terrible dps are just poor uniformed souls who just need to be forced to see how bad they are. Parsers would magically solve the problems of terrible people in duty finder.

The reality: almost nobody you see that's a bad dps tank or healer with a bad attitude cares what you think about their rotation or parse numbers. They are using the duty finder and mashing to victory because they know there is little to no back blow to not doing your job.

Parsers are useful to those who can understand them in context. Those people already use them. Force feeding the tool down every players throats is a bad idea in general. It only promotes toxicity in the community in my opinion.

The reality: there are a lot of different people who play the game. Is was nice of you to add the "with a bad attitude" par though. If some one is holding back the group and has a bad attitude, that is why the kick function is there. So in what way are they relevant to the topic. As a parser applies to those people, it just confirms for you that they were, and lets them know as well.

Another Reality: Not all people that react negatively when they are confronted with their bad play know they are playing poorly, or at they very least how poorly. There are a lot of differenet people and personalities playing.

Also there is not a single console player who understands the context of parsers, that is using one. I'll give you one guess why. That is a rather large portion of the population don't you think?