To all the flames on primal datacenter...

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First off, you seem to be still following SE's imposed stupidity of the 1000 character count for typed Forum messages. So, to help you out, I advise using the "Edit" function to get around this. It seems a shame to have you type two messages to finish off such a small bit of text when you could just Edit your first message to add in the stuff SE wouldn't let you type the first time. It's a dumb system, but until SE gets their heads out of their butts, we're stuck with it.

Secondly, Pre-mades actually do make a huge difference both to personal performance as well as GC performance. In fact, Pre-made parties are one of the reasons that GC comparison results get so skewed. Large groups that que together share the same win rates and match counters, but it's impossible to distinguish which matches they played solo and which matches they ran together. So, they contribute to data in the standings that account for a huge margin of error. I didn't mention Pre-mades in my comment, so I'm not really sure where you were going with this, but I can assure you that Pre-made parties are a huge factor in that they make an actual comparison between the 3 Gc's all that much harder to accurately qualify.

Also, I didn't lay out the numbers to say that you were wrong. You're actually right in regards to your que assessment: Mael has the most players congesting their ques, so, in total, they have the lowest match rate but the highest win rate (due to a bigger sample pool). Flames have the highest number of matches but lowest win rate (given they have the least players and are most easily swayed by early week casual ques), and Adders fall somewhere in the middle. The thing is, and my point, was that none of this really matters in regards to personal performance, and personal performance is what these values are supposed to be reflecting.

If you want a solution to a poor win rate than you have to look at your own performance rather than laying the blame at the feet of your GC. This may, perhaps, not refer to you personally, but it happens a lot on the forums. We constantly hear "oh, my win rate is crap because I'm in such and such GC." That's BS. Your GC has nothing to do with it. The quality of match, and the quality you bring to the match, is what makes the difference.

This is where we're gonna have to agree to disagree, because your seem to discount effort in regards to rewards. You state that "you might be the best commander out there, but you're likely to be wrong, or right. 50-50." You're half right. Any decision a commander makes is either right or wrong. There's only two outcomes. However, you are dead wrong to assume that the outcome is 50-50. A good commander does not guess. They calculate. There is a reason that, in the standings, some players are consistently scoring a high win % and why some players are consistently scoring lower, and it has a lot to do with the level of skill brought to the match.The three Adders players who were in the sample pool can probably attest to this first hand. Considering the majority of the Adders player base were not even represented in the above 50% win rate pool, those 3 players have to be doing something differently than the rest. Seeing as how winning is a team effort is seize, its a safe bet that the leadership they, or someone else, is bringing to the matches they are participating in is above the average.

The point is that the only data that standings can accurately give us is how we personally stack up compared to other members in our own GC. You ask if I have anything better than skewed data? I do. I have 100% accurate data that tells me that I have room to improve, and should buckle down and make better in-match decisions to improve my win rate, because there are other Flames out there who are better than me. I can make that assessment because I have the stones to admit I'm not perfect, the GC standings show it clear as day, and that my failures are my own and not my GC's fault.