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    I agree with everyone chiming in about fixing Fending Accessories. There needs to be some change.

    I wish Yoshi P and the Dev Team would be brave enough to alter the core paradigm (ideas people mention like Tank damage or various CDs scaling off of VIT instead of STR, or adding STR to Fending Accessories, or maybe making new Secondary Stats that would actually be worth it (more potent / useful)).

    * Side question: For a progression party (AS2 and beyond), would you recommend just using Esoterics to buy Slaying (STR) Accessories for the tank (if AS1 drops are too slow / RNG fail)? Or actually get a few pieces of Fending Esoterics Accesories for now?

    Thanks.
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    Unless you have full penta-melded hq ilvl150, you're going to need the fending ring and 1-2 more fending acc to meet the HP needed for A3S and A4S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violette View Post
    Unless you have full penta-melded hq ilvl150, you're going to need the fending ring and 1-2 more fending acc to meet the HP needed for A3S and A4S.
    Thanks Violette. I'll pick up the Fending Ring at least (since you can't hold 2 Alex Rings anyways) and consider a couple more pieces then.
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    Question to the Dev Team - Producer Letter

    Hi All,

    I posted a question about Tank Accessories on the Producer Letter "Ask a Question" thread. Please hit "Like" to hopefully get this answered by the Dev Team for the Producer Letter Live in a few weeks.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3362154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    Hi All,

    I posted a question about Tank Accessories on the Producer Letter "Ask a Question" thread. Please hit "Like" to hopefully get this answered by the Dev Team for the Producer Letter Live in a few weeks.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3362154
    I +1'd your post, though I'd like to point out that there was a similar question here:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3361626

    so I'd say upvote both of them. ( ' - ' )b
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    I personally love my melds. I busted my ass for them and can easily hit 3str2vit and 4str1vit thresholds that a lot of tanks go for while having a lot more hp and doing the same dps. Its pretty easy to make money and/or save money in this game, it only took 2 months for me to get a full set, and while that sounds like a long time, i also went into the expac stone-fuck-cold-broke (under 100k gil). Apply the same discipline to gil as you do to tanking and the melds pay for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    I personally love my melds. I busted my ass for them and can easily hit 3str2vit and 4str1vit thresholds that a lot of tanks go for while having a lot more hp and doing the same dps. Its pretty easy to make money and/or save money in this game, it only took 2 months for me to get a full set, and while that sounds like a long time, i also went into the expac stone-fuck-cold-broke (under 100k gil). Apply the same discipline to gil as you do to tanking and the melds pay for themselves.
    It doesn't change the problem about fending accessories being useless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    It doesn't change the problem about fending accessories being useless
    I thought this thread was all about crafted accessories being a problem, not fending? I clearly misread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    I thought this thread was all about crafted accessories being a problem, not fending? I clearly misread.
    It is...as in Crafted accessories shouldn't be needed as the tank accessories should provide us with the primary stats we need...just like every other type of accessory for their respective role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrial View Post
    It is...as in Crafted accessories shouldn't be needed as the tank accessories should provide us with the primary stats we need...just like every other type of accessory for their respective role.
    I mean... ...You could argue that they already do give you the stats you need. Nowhere is it written that STR gearing is the way the game is designed to be played, the meta just chooses to play that way to clear content faster. If they removed the ability to equip right-side gear not specific to your class, people would still clear content, they'd just clear it when the devs expected them to. =/ Yes you "need" STR accessories to clear content in the first couple of weeks, but if you couldn't equip that gear and had to equip VIT accessories instead, I'm curious as to how we'd adapt to make the best of that situation. We'd still clear the content and putting on VIT accessories by itself doesn't make a tank any less skilled, it'd just take a couple more weeks' worth of esos or whatever the current tomestone is, which is what, iirc, the devs intended. We're kind of a victim of our own DPS fetish honestly, or rather, fending accessories are, I guess.

    STR is the stat we need to play how we -want- to play, how we've chosen to play, not necessarily what we need to play period. The state of VIT accessories is a product of our choices in how we choose to progress in content. Its fallacious to imply that they are objectively a waste of code.

    I guess the point is, its a logical fallacy to assert that what accessories we equip as tanks has any bearing on our skill at the jobs themselves or our ability to clear the content (however quickly or slowly), its merely us as players taking the path of least resistance. We choose to set the bar and the standard at that level, whereas if STR accessories could not be worn, the same groups would have probably cleared the content first, second, third, and so on, in order, just at later dates.

    I dunno. Interesting to think about. I feel like if they did remove tanks' ability to equip slaying gear a ton of people would just stop playing. I wonder if I'm the only one that would find that silly...
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    Last edited by Syzygian; 10-10-2015 at 01:38 PM.

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