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  1. #1
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    yorjen's Avatar
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    Yorjen Spellbinder
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    Phoenix
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    Machinist Lv 60

    Experiment: Scholar Ultimate shield

    Good afternon everyone i came with an idea last night and like to share my thoughts:

    how big will be the incoming shield and mitigation if whe apply all the CDs listed below

    I couldnt run the test because lack of pepole right now so ill leave the things you need to test it

    Party composition

    Paladin
    -Divine veil 10% shield up to tank HP through
    Warrior
    -Defiance 25% extra healing
    -Convalescence 20% extra healing

    Astrologian
    -The bole 5% damage reduction if party wide

    Scholar
    -Fey illumination 25% extra potency
    -Dissipation 20% extra potency
    -Sacred soil 10% damage reduction

    Monk Mantra
    -20% extra healing

    Method
    Cast A Royal road party wide bole
    Astrologian heal the paladin to activate the shield
    All healing increase CDs posted above
    Spam on the warrior Adloquim till critical then Deployment tactics to split it to the party
    Lastly Sacred soil


    Share the numbers you get so we can pack it for raiding tips and tricks^^
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    E'dok Edok
    World
    Masamune
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Honestly, doing all this just for a big party shield is a waste of time and cooldowns. By all means, feel free to see what big numbers you can get, but it is of no use in a serious raid environment.
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    Shiki Lockhart
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    No sand then no ultimate defense
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    Deneb Algiedi
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    There's too much RNG built in. You're relying on a ewer+bole combo, plus having all those cds available at the same time, and a crit adlo.

    I wouldn't expect that specific combo to come up except once in a blue moon (every 2 months) of raiding. You might be able to pull it off in the initial pull though, but that's different than using it to survive a huge hit from a boss (where all that reduction is actually useful).

    Anyway, great thought experiment at least. Unfortunately, it's just not practical.
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    Veigas Shiffer
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    Omega
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Guys, please.
    He's not relying on this.
    its just an experiment, just for fun, he just wants to know how big the mitigation would be.
    i'm plenty sure he knows about the RNG/MP stuff.
    And now i'm pretty curious too, so if someone have actually something useful to say, then say it please
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  6. #6
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 1
    you'd have a 23k party wide mitigation based on a 4180 adloquium crit and an 16000 HP paladin and additionally a -14,5% damage modifier on whatever damage was incoming. Then what?
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    also btw, card buffs don't get halved when they go AoE anymore.
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    Ai Misaka
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    also btw, card buffs don't get halved when they go AoE anymore.
    Since when?
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Phoenix
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Tried one day how big cure 2 can be done with all buffs up with my alt whm and it heal around 20k if critted(mantra, defiance, conva, fey illumination, divine seal). Maybe scholar can do around 8k adlo(16k shield) with everything up.
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  10. #10
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    AlexanderThorolund's Avatar
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    Eros Crux
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    Honestly, doing all this just for a big party shield is a waste of time and cooldowns. By all means, feel free to see what big numbers you can get, but it is of no use in a serious raid environment.
    God, what crap attitude. How about, 'this will be interesting!' Or 'Hey what a cool idea, looking forward to the result'

    Nope. Just 'waste of time.'

    -_____-

    OP, never let people like this stop you from posting cool ideas.
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