Can we please just stop calling that "thing" Summoner?



Can we please just stop calling that "thing" Summoner?


It's definitely the weakest iteration of SMN I have ever encountered in the franchise. There are things SE could do to make it feel more like SMN, but for one reason or another, they just don't want to give players what they want. Hopefully these egi glamours come out soon.
Between BLM not really using thunder much and SMN feeling more like BLM these days, I hardly feel like an FF caster anymore =/


I gave up on BLM feeling like BLM when the design of this game asked me to spam Fire on Ifrit because elemental resistance isn't a thing and even if it were, we don't have a spell selection to support that.
As for SMN, beyond Shiva / Ramuh glamour, I'd really like a skeleton. Now some of you might say that a skeleton isn't very summoner-like. Well, neither is SMN as a whole. So if I'm going to be casting Bio and Miasma and killing things with diseases rather than doing much that resembles a summoner, I'd like a skeleton pet to go with my Necromancer.
And the beating of the dead horse begins.



I think they should rename it to something else like "Arcana Master" or perhaps "Egi Master" or perhaps even something else then introduce a whole new Summoner Job.
Arcana Master would work because it would show to be the next step in the Arcanist evolution. atleast I think so.
I wont lie, I came from FFXI and honestly thought the SMN in FFXIV would be more like that one. No I didnt expect it to be exactly the same(a good example of similar but not the same would be WHM in FFXI) but come on look at the Avatars in that one compared to the EGIs in this one.....It's definitely the weakest iteration of SMN I have ever encountered in the franchise. There are things SE could do to make it feel more like SMN, but for one reason or another, they just don't want to give players what they want. Hopefully these egi glamours come out soon.
Between BLM not really using thunder much and SMN feeling more like BLM these days, I hardly feel like an FF caster anymore =/
the things I'm told about previous versions of SMN FFXI excluded was that their Avatars or whatever you called them in each game were called forth to do a single move and went away. I don't see how this would be a bad thing for XIV....
anyway back on topic. as soon as they release the Egi Glamours I'm going to change that floating pile of chicken nuggets to something more appealing.....
Last edited by Wildsprite; 10-07-2015 at 02:03 PM.

Who cares what the summoner was in other FF titles? In THIS game it's the summoner.
Having my old carbuncles would already be better than that floating bearded rock and the yellow birdy, but I wouldn't mind Shiva/Ravana - just not as "egi".

i agree about blm, back in 1.0 ffxiv conjurer was actually the blm with all the elemental spells, thaumaturge was the healing necromancer as i would call him with spells such as sacrifice, dia, bio, poison, shadow darts, syphon etc etc, elemental resistance was in the game, wish they added it again, but sadly it is not possible now that cnj has earth and wind and a water spell and thm has fire and ice.
regarding smn i am still waiting for my yuna one or lady iceheart one, but i think we are too far with the smn problem for it to be fixed at all, we need a new class for that, so i am hoping for the egi skins now if they ever come, before i give up on him entirely
kazeandi i do care how much my smn is similar to other ff titles because i liked that summoner, i love this game and it would be perfect if i can play a job i always wanted inside this beautiful world , i want it to be as ffxi or ffx or ffix one, same goes to blm as well i want that darn elemental resistance back
Last edited by Soralis; 10-07-2015 at 04:15 PM.



if they made it like the FFXI SMN I would be all over that. SMN is my second favourite job in XI right after WHM.kazeandi i do care how much my smn is similar to other ff titles because i liked that summoner, i love this game and it would be perfect if i play a job i always wanted inside this beautiful world , i want it to be as ffxi or ffx or ffix one, same goes to blm as well i want that darn elemental resistance back
though not sure how it would work since they removed the elemental wheel from XIV(I still think this was a mistake but they had their reasons). in XI you chose your Avatar based either on the element the enemy was weak to or you chose it based on how much damage it could do(I.E. Predatar Claws(Garuda) or Eclipse Bite(Fenrir)=Physical Slashing damage and not many things were strong to said damage)
Last edited by Wildsprite; 10-07-2015 at 04:21 PM.
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