Scholar possible buffs

[Nektulos-Tuor]

SCH is more likely to be nerfed than buffed.

- Unlimited single target damage (Roughly 700-800 DPS)
- Unlimited highest AOE damage of all healers (Roughly 1000-1400 DPS depending on number of targets)
- Indomitability (this spell is so ridiculous it's not even funny)
- Almost unlimited mana regardless what you cast (being Adlo and Succor the only two things that will dry you provided you spam them like a madman).
- Most mobile healer (fairy keeps healing if you move, and you have a zillion instant casts)
- Largest amount of mitigation tools (Virus, Eye for an Eye, Fey Covenant, Sacred Soil, Adloquium, Stoneskin, Deployment Tactics)

There isn't a single serious raid atm that doesn't have a SCH. You can do fine without AST and you can do fine without WHM.

But hey, if you find SCH underwhelming TC, go with AST + WHM.

Mana control isn't what it was at 50. Our spells cost about 37% more.

Single target damage spells take a ton of Mana, and waste Aetherflows. Might as well be a DPS class.

AOE damage gets weaker after a certain number of targets.

Indomitability is pretty much our only good AOE ability.


WHM/AST have way better AOE healing then SCH.

[Houston009]

Are you comparing the MP Cost of spells to the amount of MP players had by the end of 2.0?
Where everyone had the highest tier (i130) gear.

You should be comparing the MP cost relative to the of amount of MP healers had at i70 - i90 (low tier) in 2.0, to the mp cost of healers current i190 - i210 (low tier) gear.

At a loss as to how single target damage spells waste Aetherflows.

[Ghishlain]

Mana control isn't what it was at 50. Our spells cost about 37% more.

SCHs can cast the same number of Physicks at at level 50 in i90 gear as they can at level 60 in i210 gear. Nothing has changed in terms of MP consumption.

Single target damage spells take a ton of Mana, and waste Aetherflows. Might as well be a DPS class.

I'm not sure what's the point you're trying to prove with this. See answer above regarding MP consumption.

AOE damage gets weaker after a certain number of targets.

In 2.X, SCHs couldn't Bane past four targets. Now SCHs can at lesser potency. SCHs got a buff on Bane when Heavensward got released. This is unlike Holy which got a huge nerf bat in the AoE damage department.

Indomitability is pretty much our only good AOE ability.

WHM/AST have way better AOE healing then SCH.

WHM has always had the better AoE healing in 2.X. Indomitability just closed that gap a little. It's still a weakness in the SCH kit but not as apparent now as it was pre 3.0.

[Sunako]

At a loss as to how single target damage spells waste Aetherflows.

SCH have skill called energy drain that is part of dps rotation if you want maximum potential damage for scholar that "waste" Aetherflows. For single target damage he probably mean "Broil" the filler spell and that cost more mana than older filler spell called "ruin", but in fact broil mana cost is exactly same than stone 3 or malefic 2 and SCH do not need use their filler nearly as often than other two healers because they need maintain 5 different dots all of the time unlike other healers only three different dots.

[Sunako]

Lol no. Stop comparing regen with the fairy, it's a fail comparison. Regen wastes you an entire GCD every 18-21 seconds and costs mana, when you are casting Regen/Aspected benefic you are not doing anything else, however, you cast physicks in the middle of fairy heals.

Pvp is hardly relevant...

Ya but those spells can be casted while moving. How many healing spells scholars can cast while moving? Nothing. Anyway if cleric stance would affect pet, i think scholar would not be nearly that strong as it is now because in most of time scholar dps 80% of time and most of content is kinda joke for healers. If there would be more healing intensive fights, other healers would shine way more better.

[Cynfael]

How many healing spells scholars can cast while moving?

If you count "abilities," then the tally rises to...

- Lustrate
- Indomitability
- Embrace (provided your fairy is in turret mode as she usually should be)

[Sunako]

If you count "abilities," then the tally rises to...

- Lustrate
- Indomitability
- Embrace (provided your fairy is in turret mode as she usually should be)

Yah those are abilities, not spells. WHM and AST can weave off global skills between regen/aspected benefic like draw cards etc..

[Gallus]

Mana control isn't what it was at 50. Our spells cost about 37% more.

Single target damage spells take a ton of Mana, and waste Aetherflows. Might as well be a DPS class.

AOE damage gets weaker after a certain number of targets.

Indomitability is pretty much our only good AOE ability.


WHM/AST have way better AOE healing then SCH.

1- Mana consumption: "It isn't what is was". It's much worse for WHM and AST.
2- "Single target damage spells take a ton of mana and waste aetherflows". Lol and waste aetherflows? No it doesn't? You are not forced to use energy drain if you don't need it, your single target damage is completely fine without it, it's just another tool you have. As for "single target damage costing a ton of mana", I can go to a dummy and DPS full damage until my retirement pension (mana loop, you generate more mana than the one you drain). Try spamming malefic II/stone III in a dummy and see how long you last.
3- AOE damage gets weaker: bane was buffed. Holy was nerfed. Gravity is like holy. A good SCH can keep 1000-1400 damage for almost as long as they want in a group of 4+ mobs. As an AST/WHM, the only way you can even get close to those numbers is by spamming holy/gravity. WHM has the edge on AOE burst damage due to assize, but on very briefs period of time, because it only takes a few seconds for a SCH to overcome their fellow healers' damage. Any good SCH who has cleared A2 is completely aware of this.
4- AST/WHM have way better aoe heals than SCH: Not so much, but yes. It's called balance.

[Cynfael]

Yah those are abilities, not spells. WHM and AST can weave off global skills between regen/aspected benefic like draw cards etc..

Lustrate and Indom can similarly be woven between GCD casts, while Embrace can be activated regardless of what sort of ability you're using. I don't see the meaningful distinction here.

[Exodus_Kenpachi]

This is the equivalent of someone asking for WAR to be buffed. This was a great read. Lots of laughs. I am glad that there are people who have put the work in for me explaining just how stupid a notion that SCH needs buffs really is.