no heal skill

[NorthernLadMSP]

I can totally see OPs point as a valid point, for a couple reasons.

If you're leveling, a lot of people like running dungeons for the XP. If you're sitting in a long queue, you can do Fates for extra XP. However, you cannot have a choco out while queueing. You cannot be in a "Fate party" (which would normally have a healer, though not always) while queuing. So, you're forced to have no self heal at all while doing Fates (in these situations) or you're forced to sit around AFK while waiting for the half hour DF queue. Either way, MCH is the only class with absolutely no access to a self heal.

Not to mention, in PVP. You're, again, the only class who has no access to a self heal. While this is not game breaking/changing, I totally feel for machinists on this one.

[Aamalthea]

Ok we will just stand around in Ishgard while I wait for queues since I can't have my bird out and queue at the same time. Awesome suggestion guys keep it up. Oh also I'll pull my bird out when I'm in a party and just need a quick heal to not waste the healers mana. Perfect!

[RiceisNice]

I know other jobs who'd rather have a MCH's cross class actions.

TBH, MNK cross class skills aren't that good. Why do you even need that self heal anyway?

I'd take Invigorate/BFB or Raging Strikes/Quelling Strikes anyday.

That's 4 skill slots out of 5 that you can use. Beyond that, you have keen flurry and feint. The former that rarely amounts to mitigation and the latter only being feasible to use an GCD while moving with GB active (which is never when you can just turn it off and re-enable it on the go). MNK cross skills are by no means bad, but I wouldn't take it over DRG/BRD if we're only limited to 2 classes to cross from.

As a blm, I'll trade physick for a dps skill any day. It's basically a wasted cross class spot; it's uses limited to a niche role in a handful of main scenario quests.

"any amount of ability to alleviate healers"

If that's how you're using it, please stop. If you're grouped with a healer you have 0 reason to touch your healing spells as a dps.

You can't really compare second wind to physick though. SW works off attack potency and is oGCD (meaning you can use without interrupting your damage rotation) while phyisck scales off mind stat.

[Malevicton]

You can't really compare second wind to physick though. SW works off attack potency and is oGCD (meaning you can use without interrupting your damage rotation) while phyisck scales off mind stat.

It was op that made the comparison. Op also included pld cure.

[Iagainsti]

don't know if this should go into the dps role area or not but is it just me or does anyone else notice mch do not have their own heal skill.... i mean brd, nin, drg, and war have second wind pld has cure and clemency blm and smn get physic ... and mch gets nothing, wat the hell SE ... so quality of life for mch can we also cross class with mnk PLZ.... or at least give mch their own heal skill, i've played as every class and any amount of ability to alleviate healers to not have to constantly watch the dps is better healing for the tanks

MCH does receive a self heal for pvp; definitely a QoL improvement. Otherwise, Use mega potions for PvE; they're plentiful and only a 4 min CD.

[Stormfur]

I'd love to be able to cross-class Second Wind. Soloing stuff with a MCH (I do quests while queued so no chocobo out) makes me feel squishy.

[ServerCollaps]

Ok we will just stand around in Ishgard while I wait for queues since I can't have my bird out and queue at the same time. Awesome suggestion guys keep it up. Oh also I'll pull my bird out when I'm in a party and just need a quick heal to not waste the healers mana. Perfect!

a single chakra all 2 minutes wont help you either

[Yoruichi4478]

To say that when everything now is such a tight dps check that if a dps has to choose between a pot that boosts their main stat for a shot at the best possible chance at putting the most dps in possible to beat a turn in savage alex vs a pot that will put all other pots on gcd along with it so they can only use one or the other which could be the make or break of say the first viable clear. I would put more faith in my healers and expect them to be able to capably do their jobs than use an hp pot over a dex pot. I have mch at 60 so I can speak from exp a little lvling up. It sucks not having 2nd wind and soloing maybe I would use pots but in a raid situation, that's what healers are for. The mch shouldn't have to pot to live in raid over main stat pot. If you have to pot to live, get new healers imo.

MCH does receive a self heal for pvp; definitely a QoL improvement. Otherwise, Use mega potions for PvE; they're plentiful and only a 4 min CD.

[Terrini]

Not being able to heal myself is what I hate most when DPSing solo. Even 1 to 30 a cure or physick tends not to be worth it on a DPS and Second Wind and healing pots have long cooldowns that really hurt if you're in a Fate along and getting pelted by lots of monsters.

Hopefully they manage to implement queueing with chocobos soon...

[Anarnee]

lol I don't know about you, but even if I use my heal skill right away, the healer is usual already healing me before I do. Its their jobs~ XD You should be worrying about not getting hit, not trying to heal.