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    As a blm, I'll trade physick for a dps skill any day. It's basically a wasted cross class spot; it's uses limited to a niche role in a handful of main scenario quests.

    "any amount of ability to alleviate healers"

    If that's how you're using it, please stop. If you're grouped with a healer you have 0 reason to touch your healing spells as a dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post

    If that's how you're using it, please stop. If you're grouped with a healer you have 0 reason to touch your healing spells as a dps.
    Alexander Floor 1 .. Opressor and 0.5 are jumping and you run to the opposite where they will crash. The Time it takes for them to land is a huge Time Gap, which of course ... you could use for Healing your Mates.
    Espescially when one of the DPS failed to kill one of the Adds under the Laser and the big Missile just exploded...
    Tell me, the moment one of the HLR has around 1-2k HP because of this, would you rather use 2-3 Physics (My BLM does 400-450 each Physics) or just stand around doing nothing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mwynn View Post
    Alexander Floor 1 .. Opressor and 0.5 are jumping and you run to the opposite where they will crash. The Time it takes for them to land is a huge Time Gap, which of course ... you could use for Healing your Mates.
    Espescially when one of the DPS failed to kill one of the Adds under the Laser and the big Missile just exploded...
    Tell me, the moment one of the HLR has around 1-2k HP because of this, would you rather use 2-3 Physics (My BLM does 400-450 each Physics) or just stand around doing nothing?
    Any good healer worries about themselves first so if you're going to heal anyone in that situation you should probably heal yourself. As a healer, if I have a choice between me dying and a DPS dying, I make sure to find a moment to raise the DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mwynn View Post
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    99% of the time that that happens, you're just gonna cause overhealing. That's an aoe heal situation and you're single target healing, meaning one person will be getting disproportionately higher heals, which will just be overhealing. You're just gonna make it look like your healer was overhealing more than they were, just so you could pretend like you were contributing. You also can't maintain ui through the whole jump, meaning you'll have less mp when it lands and your rotation is gonna be skewed, either by getting less fires or by wasting a gcd opening with blizz to get back on track.

    You're example is also predicated on people failing mechanics. It's not a bad idea to have back up plans, but plan A should be your dps not being awful (especially if we're talking about normal mode... there are only 2 missiles, that's a particular level of awful; we shouldn't be assuming this is a legitimate reason because if it is then the player base has bigger problems and we should deal with those first).

    So yeah, I'll actually stand around doing nothing. Trying to do something will accomplish nothing, and will adversely affect my ability to do the thing that's my actual responsibility. Trust your healer to handle healing. And let them trust you to dps.
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    Last edited by Malevicton; 09-29-2015 at 10:34 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    If that's how you're using it, please stop. If you're grouped with a healer you have 0 reason to touch your healing spells as a dps.
    Physick, sure. Second wind, however, especially as melee DPS, should see lots of use on any enemy/boss that has PBAoEs. Unless that AoE is going to do over 6k a second wind, oGCD can heal a large enough percentage of it to make taking it in the face to stay glued to an enemy and eke out more DPS an entirely viable choice. Especially if you also pop a defensive cooldown in preparation for the hit.

    Second wind isn't REALLY a healing tool in group content. It's a DPS tool used to let you stick in place to do damage when you'd normally have to retreat.

    I don't know how often that'd be useful for ranged DPS classes but.
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    Last edited by Krylo; 09-29-2015 at 01:33 PM.