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  1. #81
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    CosmicKirby's Avatar
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    Lulumia Lumia
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Causality View Post
    Clearly someone has never fired a gun or knows about recoil.
    Much less seen the size of the bore on MCH guns. Even the lalafell MCHs are firing unreasonably large calibers with little effort. But hey, most of the martial stuff in this game makes no physical sense.
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  2. #82
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    Edwin Li
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    Much less seen the size of the bore on MCH guns. Even the lalafell MCHs are firing unreasonably large calibers with little effort. But hey, most of the martial stuff in this game makes no physical sense.
    Could be the design of the gun having less recoil.

    We don't know the extent of the gun technology in Eorzea only that Eorzea Gun technology began with Blacksmithing in Limsa Lominsa and since then advanced over time.

    Machinist also have access to unique ammo due to their Aether pack they carry around. Something about the Aether Pack being adjusted to manipulate Aether so it can generate the Machinist's Drones and Ammo providing them unlimited supplies. So what kind of ammo the Aether Pack creates may also factor into the low recoil.

    Not to mention the ammo on the Aether Pack looks like shotgun shells.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 09-28-2015 at 01:40 PM.

  3. #83
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    CosmicKirby's Avatar
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    Lulumia Lumia
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Could be the design of the gun having less recoil.

    We don't know the extent of the gun technology in Eorzea only that Eorzea Gun technology began with Blacksmithing in Limsa Lominsa and since then advanced over time.

    Machinist also have access to unique ammo due to their Aether pack they carry around. Something about the Aether Pack being adjusted to manipulate Aether so it can generate the Machinist's Drones and Ammo providing them unlimited supplies. So what kind of ammo the Aether Pack creates may also factor into the low recoil.
    Much like magitek, it's probably more magic than machinery.

    Blacksmiths don't make complicated systems of rollers, slides, and springs that would actually reduce physical recoil. That'd require precise machinery-designed parts.
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  4. #84
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    hagare's Avatar
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    Cesan Duff
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    what kind of strength are we talking about here?
    magical, physical?
    what do we use as measurement? scale of destruction? raw damage? number of victims?
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  5. #85
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    Jondi Taru
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    Sargatanas
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    Rogue Lv 60
    But does a MCH sing while in the midst of battle to rally their allies??? That's some hard stuff to do while dodging attacks and aiming with a bow! xD
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  6. #86
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    Aera Cross
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    what kind of strength are we talking about here?
    magical, physical?
    what do we use as measurement? scale of destruction? raw damage? number of victims?
    Probably should have clarified this in the beginning. Basically what Im asking is, if all jobs had to fight eachother either 1v1 or in an all out brawl who would come out on top? Lorewise of course
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    Last edited by AeraCross; 09-29-2015 at 01:28 AM.

  7. #87
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Could be the design of the gun having less recoil.

    We don't know the extent of the gun technology in Eorzea only that Eorzea Gun technology began with Blacksmithing in Limsa Lominsa and since then advanced over time.

    Machinist also have access to unique ammo due to their Aether pack they carry around. Something about the Aether Pack being adjusted to manipulate Aether so it can generate the Machinist's Drones and Ammo providing them unlimited supplies. So what kind of ammo the Aether Pack creates may also factor into the low recoil.

    Not to mention the ammo on the Aether Pack looks like shotgun shells.
    You can see the ammo pretty clearly in the skill icons. The shape's similar to modern bullets.
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  8. #88
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    Cesan Duff
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AeraCross View Post
    Probably should have clarified this in the beginning. Basically what Im asking is, if all jobs had to fight eachother either 1v1 or in an all out brawl who would come out on top?
    I say most likely SMN with the DoTs + Bane(if battle royale) + egi + channeling the power of the elder primal bahamut himself.
    though whoever wins in the end might have different results. after all we have DRGs who can jump long distances, NINs with shukuchi, BRDs, MCHs. those 4 can probably take out all those high powered casters in an instant.

    raw damage is usually held by casters, though vulnerability during casting is a pretty big weakness.
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    Last edited by hagare; 09-28-2015 at 05:24 PM.

  9. #89
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    NoahArks's Avatar
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    Asuna Okawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AeraCross View Post
    Probably should have clarified this in the beginning. Basically what Im asking is, if all jobs had to fight eachother either 1v1 or in an all out brawl who would come out on top?
    Definitely smn in that case. They DoT the hell out of everyone and have a egi to attack for them. In the meantime they can heal themselfs and their egi.
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  10. #90
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Louisoix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    400 heal physicks... I'd say astrologian, Nocturnal Benefic does everything they need to survive while dotting the enemy to death.
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