Looks like PLDs are clearing A4s.

[Synestra]

GZ for the down

Checked your topic and there were alot of good adjustment ideas/suggestions, those were more "calm" than mine mainly because i still think whole job is half finished. I would personally like to see total rework on some skills/abilities and mechanics but i doubt that will happen anytime soon.

[Shining_Tiger_Excalibur]

Checked your topic and there were alot of good adjustment ideas/suggestions, those were more "calm" than mine mainly because i still think whole job is half finished. I would personally like to see total rework on some skills/abilities and mechanics but i doubt that will happen anytime soon.

I'm coming up with a thread as we speak that's also adding more than just enmity and potency buffs to suggestions. I'd like to ask you to keep looking into it as I'll be updating it frequently : http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...t-happens-when.....

[dspguy]

PLD have cleared it. That's what matters. By the time the other 99% of the raiding population gets there, they'll have enough gear that groups can afford many mistakes and still clear it. So, moot point now, IMO.

[Jpec07]

Unpopular opinion time: the problem was never with PLD.

The problem was that Warriors have too much DPS.

In a progression group, where every scrap of DPS matters, and where gear levels are 10-20 iLvls lower on average than the intended levels, it absolutely makes sense that the tanks that can put out the most DPS will be more desirable. So this means that WAR-DRK reigned supreme during the world-first race, since groups were pushing Alexander: Savage with extremely low gear levels. Since PLD has the lowest DPS, they were pulled from those groups, or given up in favor of WAR or DRK. Now that groups have the gear to make up the DPS difference, it absolutely makes sense that we're seeing PLD clears (though I do wonder, are we seeing any DRK-PLD groups?).

If WAR were nerfed to be 10-15% more DPS higher than DRK and PLD (instead of the 25-50% that I've seen on some parses), the playing field would be more leveled, and we'd probably see PLD as viable for the world-first race again.

[Disc]

If WAR were nerfed to be 10-15% more DPS higher than DRK and PLD (instead of the 25-50% that I've seen on some parses), the playing field would be more leveled, and we'd probably see PLD as viable for the world-first race again.

WAR would still be taken over PLD in every scenario for Storm's Eye/Path. PLD is competing with DRK & cannot do as much DPS as DRK without replacing them due to their higher overall mitigation & utility.

[NFaelivrin]

PLD's miserable single target DPS would be excusable if they had significantly better utility than they currently do. PLD's aoe DPS is inexcusable and feels like a completely pointless hole in the class.

[RocheKat]

PLD's miserable single target DPS would be excusable if they had significantly better utility than they currently do. PLD's aoe DPS is inexcusable and feels like a completely pointless hole in the class.

hehe... you said pld aoe dps... /giggle

[Alphras]

If WAR were nerfed to be 10-15% more DPS higher than DRK and PLD (instead of the 25-50% that I've seen on some parses), the playing field would be more leveled, and we'd probably see PLD as viable for the world-first race again.

http://www.fflogs.com/statistics/7#b...nks&dataset=90

Edit: Funny fact, there are less Astrologians clearing A4S than Paladins.

[Amiaze]

This is what I like to see - players challenging themselves and stepping outside of the accepted strategies and dynamics, just because they can. Major kudos to these guys.

[Billeffingmurray]

This is what I like to see - players challenging themselves and stepping outside of the accepted strategies and dynamics, just because they can. Major kudos to these guys.

That's what I'm saying. Push it to the limit.