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    I only agree that mana control is that should be nerfed. Fairy heal is pretty much similar than regen or Aspected Benefic. Regen is even better than fairy if you need heal 2 targets. Astro is far most mobile healer imo. In pvp i think sch is the easiest healer kill especially if you manage burn their stacks with Retrogradation, One Ilm Punch, Wither, Glory Slash etc..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    I only agree that mana control is that should be nerfed. Fairy heal is pretty much similar than regen or Aspected Benefic. Regen is even better than fairy if you need heal 2 targets. Astro is far most mobile healer imo. In pvp i think sch is the easiest healer kill especially if you manage burn their stacks with Retrogradation, One Ilm Punch, Wither, Glory Slash etc..
    Lol no. Stop comparing regen with the fairy, it's a fail comparison. Regen wastes you an entire GCD every 18-21 seconds and costs mana, when you are casting Regen/Aspected benefic you are not doing anything else, however, you cast physicks in the middle of fairy heals.

    Pvp is hardly relevant...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Lol no. Stop comparing regen with the fairy, it's a fail comparison. Regen wastes you an entire GCD every 18-21 seconds and costs mana, when you are casting Regen/Aspected benefic you are not doing anything else, however, you cast physicks in the middle of fairy heals.

    Pvp is hardly relevant...
    Ya but those spells can be casted while moving. How many healing spells scholars can cast while moving? Nothing. Anyway if cleric stance would affect pet, i think scholar would not be nearly that strong as it is now because in most of time scholar dps 80% of time and most of content is kinda joke for healers. If there would be more healing intensive fights, other healers would shine way more better.
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    Last edited by Sunako; 09-29-2015 at 07:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    How many healing spells scholars can cast while moving?
    If you count "abilities," then the tally rises to...

    - Lustrate
    - Indomitability
    - Embrace (provided your fairy is in turret mode as she usually should be)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    If you count "abilities," then the tally rises to...

    - Lustrate
    - Indomitability
    - Embrace (provided your fairy is in turret mode as she usually should be)
    Yah those are abilities, not spells. WHM and AST can weave off global skills between regen/aspected benefic like draw cards etc..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Yah those are abilities, not spells. WHM and AST can weave off global skills between regen/aspected benefic like draw cards etc..
    Lustrate and Indom can similarly be woven between GCD casts, while Embrace can be activated regardless of what sort of ability you're using. I don't see the meaningful distinction here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Yah those are abilities, not spells. WHM and AST can weave off global skills between regen/aspected benefic like draw cards etc..
    healing skills/abilities that can cast while moving:

    WHM:
    - Regen (spell)
    - Benediction (ability)
    - Asylum (ability)
    - Assize (ability)
    - Tetra (ability)

    AST:
    - Asp. Benefic (spell)
    - Benefic II (spell) - needs procc
    - dignity (ability)
    (and almost every heal spell while using lightspeed)

    SCH:
    - Lustrate (ability)
    - Indomitability (ability)
    - fairy heals

    almost everything on these lists are abilities. Regen and Asp. Benefic art the only spell that can be used while on the move without any special buffs/proccs involved. i dont see any problem here, SCH even can use the most thanks to the aetherflow stacks and the fairy

    hearing SCH complains is always kind of funny... since the class is already way too OP
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    Last edited by deos; 09-30-2015 at 07:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deos View Post
    stuff..
    You do not need list abilities that I already know. What is more funny, you think I complain about scholars. I have never said in the first place sch is overpowered/underpowered. Or i have said mana control is bit op compared other two healers. I only said regen is compareable with fairy. Maybe there is some kind of reason why SCH do not have regen, but other two healers have it? yes because they have fairy. It is their "regen". Both regen and fairy have their own weaknesses and you have to deal with it and stop complain it is op.
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    Last edited by Sunako; 09-30-2015 at 09:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Ya but those spells can be casted while moving. How many healing spells scholars can cast while moving? Nothing.
    A fairly moot point since you will usually not be casting healing spells while moving, you will be casting Bio, Aero, Ruin II, or Swiftcast Bio II/Shadow Flare/Miasma.

    Regen's nice while being mobile but like all casters, you usually aren't sprinting a marathon around the map. You can usually stutter step or Swiftcast your spell, on SCH or otherwise, for the small amounts of movement needed.
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