NO MORE ALEXANDER(NM)!

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so by your logic is she a raider or not?



because if meeting the prerequisite to enter a raid is all you need then she is a raider.
unless of course you admit that coil is reserved for "real" raiders on account of being able to enter it does not mean being able to clear it.
which would make her right o.O

Anyone who tries to kill a raid boss, successful or not, I would call a raider.

A raid boss would be a boss that requires a higher level of dedication and coordination than a duty finder boss. Does that satisfy your pedantic argument?

Also, just in case you bring up this point, yes, I consider coil in duty finder with echo a raid because the nerfs to t9 and t13 were not that bad. Those two fights remained mostly in-tact and still gated players. It forced them to step up their game if they were clearing the content the 1st time around. The crystal tower series never forced you to up your game. You just had to show up, not go completely afk, and you get loot.

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Since I hit my daily limit, our time here will have to come to an end, sadly =(

yea that's bull.

let me use what you said,
I can take a stone brick and spray paint it gold, It won't make me a million-air.

and if I really wanna get pedantic, those who do the CT series and the soon to come void ark are called raiders because they are called a raid by the developer.
Whose words actually mean something on such matters.

PS: you are being blunt AND insulting, those two are not mutually exclusive

Yes, you know what I mean, but you continue to be pedantic. SE can call it raiding, but does the community? Does the MMO community look at stuff like LFR in wow and crystal tower in this game an call it a raid. Nope. Everyone knows the mechanics, the bosses, and the dificulty of the CT series/LFR has always been a joke.

Go make a thread on reddit and talk about how CT is raiding and lets see what the court of public opinion has to say on it?

you are mixing up the definition of blunt with snooty know it all. you aren't being blunt you are being an !@#$hole. learn the difference.

if you define coil as raid content but not the CT series perhaps you should take a look at this.

Guess you were not done after all =p teehee! One last go before I head out for the day, shall we?

I am sorry if being blunt makes me seem like an a-hole, but you have no place of authority to speak from and your points on the matter are ill-informed. Yes I am being mean to you because you deserve it for thinking you should have a say in something you don't participate in. Go to another thread where you can talk about stuff you are informed on, leave the discussion of raiding to people who actually care about it enough to try it. Also, GG resorting wikipedia for your argument XD

I challenge you to do what I said to hagare, go post in the ffxiv subreddit and ask the community if CT was a raid or just a loot pinata.

Both of you have a wonderful day! <3