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    StrejdaTom's Avatar
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    I think I get the intent of this thread.

    The idea is that Alexander (Story mode) should be released after Savage/Hard mode. Basically, making Alexander (Story) required for progression in Savage (Had to get to i190 before really attempting it - well, mostly i190 for our left side) really stagnated the progression of a lot of groups. If we could've gone from full i180 Law -> Alexander Savage (Being the cap as 200 similar to old progression), there would've been a lot more groups clearling week 1/2 and the balance would've been tighter, instead of being overtuned for what we went in with.

    Not only that, people would've gotten to enjoy learnign mechanics in challenging raids instead of thinking "Oh so what's the twist on Alexander Normal on this one?" There's no real sense of exploration or discovery.

    I won't agree to take out Alexander Story, but I think it should A) come later and B) Be less relevant in progression gearing.
    This is probably the wisest reply I have ever read in accordance to raiding.

    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    you do have a choice in the form of eso gear, which is what savage is actually tuned for.
    Wrong.
    The best is combination of both Alex NM and ESO gear.
    Going full ESO wouldn't only delay people from entering Alex SM for months, but it would also be worse than combining ESO/Alex NM gear, especially for damage dealers.
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    Cesan Duff
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    Wrong.
    The best is combination of both Alex NM and ESO gear.
    Going full ESO wouldn't only delay people from entering Alex SM for months, but it would also be worse than combining ESO/Alex NM gear, especially for damage dealers.
    of course the best would be a combination.
    but you could still do it with full eso, after all eso is higher ilvl and has more main stat.
    and that is the choice you have to make.

    it's like what yoshida said about healer DPS. Content done with appropriate ilvl does not take into account healer DPS, but if you wanna do it faster with lower ilvl, you're gonna have to push harder and include healer DPS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moonleg View Post
    How many times do you do Normal Mode for the story, though? There has to be incentives to go in there so people that aren't 100% up to date all the time can get in a few weeks later. Just look at CT now, I'm having to tell all new members in our FC to ignore CT until SE creates a roulette for it, because getting in is unrealistic.
    once lols. Except if I'm helping someone else clear it. xD

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    We're going the wrong way when it comes to ideas of incentivizing content. Gear Progression should end before hardcore accomplishment begins. If we're going to have 'hard' content, then it shoulden't be something you just wait four weeks to get the best set to dominate with. It should be skill based.
    true. The best solution would be if they added Alex NM, Alex HM, and Alex SM.
    NM will be like what we have, HM would be coil tier with drops from current savage mode, and SM will be like coil savage with titles and the mount drop.
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    Last edited by hagare; 09-26-2015 at 11:22 PM.