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    Just going to give an analogy about false expectations.

    Imagine you go to a cell phone store and the rep says you get 1GB per month data plan. Great, sign up.

    then 4 months down the road you prepay for your 5th month. Suddenly, a week later the cell phone company broadcasts "Hey, we're all going on vacation, so for the next 2 months you get 500 MB instead of 1 GB. No discounts. Cheers". Should you be happy with this? Should you be OK with this? No. You were specifically told before payment what to expect, and then you paid. Then you got something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Just going to give an analogy about false expectations.

    Imagine you go to a cell phone store and the rep says you get 1GB per month data plan. Great, sign up.

    then 4 months down the road you prepay for your 5th month. Suddenly, a week later the cell phone company broadcasts "Hey, we're all going on vacation, so for the next 2 months you get 500 MB instead of 1 GB. No discounts. Cheers". Should you be happy with this? Should you be OK with this? No. You were specifically told before payment what to expect, and then you paid. Then you got something else.
    Main difference is that you can't drop and resume a cell phone plan with nothing wasted. 14's a product; if you want something to change, the most effective way is to vote with your wallet. If they lose enough money they'd probably just can Yoshida, which I'm sure a lot of people here would love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Main difference is that you can't drop and resume a cell phone plan with nothing wasted. 14's a product; if you want something to change, the most effective way is to vote with your wallet. If they lose enough money they'd probably just can Yoshida, which I'm sure a lot of people here would love.
    Yes, I already unsubbed. It was hard to think of a direct comparison. Not many things have subs. It's particularly frustrating, because I either pay 33% more, or I buy 2 months at a time, so I've unsubbed, but I've already paid until the end of October.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Just going to give an analogy about false expectations.
    I'll give you one right now. Nowhere did they ever guarantee a 3 month schedule. It is not in the terms of service. They only said their plan was to try to keep it that way. It was never promised. The idea that some of you have that they did such a promise shows how much you were not paying attention to everything they said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    I'll give you one right now, nowhere did they ever guarantee a 3 month schedule. it is not in the terms of service and they only said their plan was to try to keep it that way. it was NOT promised.
    False expectations, not promises. Yoshi himself said that they would stick to a 3 month cycle in interviews. Yes, it's not in the ToS, you are right there.

    It's fine if you want to keep supporting this, but to me it's not a very good business practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    False expectations, not promises. Yoshi himself said that they would stick to a 3 month cycle in interviews. Yes, it's not in the ToS, you are right there.

    It's fine if you want to keep supporting this, but to me it's not a very good business practice.
    he said time and time again their plan was to try to stick to that schedule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    he said time and time again their plan was to try to stick to that schedule.
    I am confused. Are you agreeing with me now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I am confused. Are you agreeing with me now?
    yes and no, the issue here is translation sometimes isn't exact. I believe he very well did intend to stick to the 3 month schedule. but I don't believe he worded it like that even though a lot of people took it as a guarantee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    yes and no, the issue here is translation sometimes isn't exact. I believe he very well did intend to stick to the 3 month schedule. but I don't believe he worded it like that even though a lot of people took it as a guarantee
    I definitely did not take is as a guarantee, but a plan. This delay was due to a vacation, not due to some 'unexpected' delay. Therefore, if he was planning to delay it by 1.5 months, he should have told his paying subscriber base. Not telling us much sooner than just a few days prior to 3 months, in my opinion, is a pretty dodgy thing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    I'll give you one right now. Nowhere did they ever guarantee a 3 month schedule. It is not in the terms of service. They only said their plan was to try to keep it that way. It was never promised. The idea that some of you have that they did such a promise shows how much you were not paying attention to everything they said.
    Actually Yoshida did say in an interview that they were planning a yearly, or almost year expansion release schedule, while releasing 5 major patches too. While it's not offical, anyone who read that would expect patches to be released at the same, or a faster pace than usual.


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