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  1. #381
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    You can't blame the devs for the timing of their annual leave, many companies give limitations on when staff can take holidays. If you're annoyed the venting needs to go towards piss-poor management. When you can't take holiday at a time of your choice because of low staff numbers it does have such a negative impact on your personal life. However, I think it's pretty lame and unprofessional a company would come out and say "oh, you're going to have to wait because all the staff are on holiday".
    This information would have been much more appropriate a few months back, this potentially could have led to players possibly taking Heavensward a little slower rather than trying to pursue all of their goals as quickly as possible. We're paying customers, some people are deluded and think they're much more than that, we're not part of some big SE family. We're just numbers to them, nothing more, and no amount of fan-fest, or QA with the producer is going to change that.

    Another part of me doesn't believe staff holiday isn't the reason for this at all . For all we know there could be problems we haven't heard. I think perhaps they have had to take a step back and look at why people are not playing as much as they used to. I'd much prefer them to take their time with updates and give us stuff that is fun and adventurous rather than having hours of filler. I might be wrong there, probably am, it's just a possibility.
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    Last edited by Ortamus; 09-21-2015 at 07:20 PM.

  2. #382
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    Let me get one thing straight, I do not have anything against them taking vacation.

    However, I highly doubt that the WHOLE DEV TEAM took vacation at the same time for over a month. Add to that that Japanese have a very high working moral. I really doubt the whole team up and left. While I believe they had vacation (in waves most likely), I think they are simply behind with the patch and since saying that would mean admitting they didn't plan properly, vacation will be a viable excuse that will find acceptance everywhere.

    That being said, I rather they take a bit more time and make it a good patch. And please, please, for whoever's sake, DROP PS3 SUPPORT and let this game go to the next stage. You snooze, you loose. Get a PS4 or a PC if you want to keep playing (no, I am not ignorant of the financial investment. I have a low/mid range wage and I still could get a good machine to play FFXIV).
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    Last edited by Chessala; 09-21-2015 at 07:45 PM.

  3. #383
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    How is it my problem if they need to train more people? Did they decide to take a break just last week? Have they never thought about it?

    I don't need excuses, I need the content I provided the money to create at the rate it's always been. I pay the sub on time, you' better deliver on time as well. If your employees going on vacation delays your content by 2 months you are cheap and incompetent. It's not some unforseeable cause that you couldn't have dealt with in time. Figure it out like any othet company does. It's embarassing.

    We are talking about SE, not some new company that's just started and absolutely can't invest more time and money that it already is.
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  4. #384
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    Coincidentally, they took vacation on Silver Week maybe? (It's japanese national holiday)

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Week
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  5. #385
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    I don't know a FC member told us about Ninja changes, sounds good to me.
    Also i tend to agree, i appreciate all the work SE put into HW and it was fun but many of us now login less and are kind of bored. PVP is keeping us going for now, lol
    And they more then deserved a break
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  6. #386
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    Dia Lancea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chessala View Post
    Let me get one thing straight, I do not have anything against them taking vacation.

    However, I highly doubt that the WHOLE DEV TEAM took vacation at the same time for over a month. Add to that that Japanese have a very high working moral. I really doubt the whole team up and left. While I believe they had vacation (in waves most likely), I think they are simply behind with the patch and since saying that would mean admitting they didn't plan properly, vacation will be a viable excuse that will find acceptance everywhere.
    I think the Chaos datacenter transfer stuff probably took time away from development too.
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  7. #387
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    How is it my problem if they need to train more people? Did they decide to take a break just last week? Have they never thought about it?

    I don't need excuses, I need the content I provided the money to create at the rate it's always been. I pay the sub on time, you' better deliver on time as well. If your employees going on vacation delays your content by 2 months you are cheap and incompetent. It's not some unforseeable cause that you couldn't have dealt with in time. Figure it out like any othet company does. It's embarassing.

    We are talking about SE, not some new company that's just started and absolutely can't invest more time and money that it already is.
    did they sign a contract where they stated to deliver you a patch every 3 months? i dont think so, be grateful about anything which is coming in future or just unsub if you dont like it
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  8. #388
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    did they sign a contract where they stated to deliver you a patch every 3 months? i dont think so, be grateful about anything which is coming in future or just unsub if you dont like it
    The biggest problem with the community, people that make these statements.
    It's still possible to like the game and be critical of it, you don't have to White Knight all the time.
    Ever figure that people voicing concerns and such maybe want the game to be improved?
    The Yoshi-P lovefest continues because he can do no wrong it seems.
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  9. #389
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kedo View Post
    Ever figure that people voicing concerns and such maybe want the game to be improved?
    I'm Not saying this is you but it is what I see from observation.

    The biggest issue we have with people expressing their concerns is they do it with a attitude that gets them mostly overlooked.
    when you act negatively and present yourself as a childish entitled brat that will happen.
    if you want to be taken seriously here on the forums you need to stay positive and not retaliate to flames and personal insults.
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  10. #390
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    I'm Not saying this is you but it is what I see from observation.

    The biggest issue we have with people expressing their concerns is they do it with a attitude that gets them mostly overlooked.
    when you act negatively and present yourself as a childish entitled brat that will happen.
    I get it, there are some jerks about it, however I can't stand how any criticism gets dismissed, and the "UNSUB" argument. Come on!
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