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  1. #11
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    Cherub's Avatar
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    Miasma Eschaton
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    60: Dissipation
    Increases caster's healing magic potency by 50%.
    Increases mana cost of all healing spells by 100%.
    Duration: 15s
    Cooldown: 180s
    As if MP costs on healing spells weren't already high enough.
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  2. #12
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Cherub View Post
    As if MP costs on healing spells weren't already high enough.
    Honestly I was a level 50 SCH for a long time. Level 60 feels like they increased Mana costs a TON...
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  3. #13
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    honestly

    broil is just a straight damage upgrade and a good one at that
    deployment tactics is a huge help(completely trivialize on a crit) big AoE
    emergency tactics is amazing with succor since 90% of the time it's in response to aoe damage and moving healthbars is what matters since the shield will likely be gone before the next aoe
    indomitability is just an amazing aoe heal
    and dissipation while usually un-useful has moments where that extra 3 aetherflow and huge potency boost make all the difference in the world

    Unlike most classes, scholars post-50 skills are all supplements filling gaps the class had before
    They do nothing but make scholars much better and more versatile

    compared to the new hoops most classes have to now jump through just to keep on par with what they used to be scholar got one of the very best expansion treatments
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  4. #14
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    Viviza Viza
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Honestly I was a level 50 SCH for a long time. Level 60 feels like they increased Mana costs a TON...
    It's no different. We just had piety reset.
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  5. #15
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Viviza View Post
    It's no different. We just had piety reset.
    We had more mana before compared to the mana cost of our abilities.
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  6. #16
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    We had more mana before compared to the mana cost of our abilities.
    mana costs are a percentage of base mana pool.
    before expansion hit we had gear many tiers past the base 50 set
    At the moment we are using relatively basic gear for 60

    so basically our characters are, in a very real way, weaker at 60 than we were at 50
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  7. #17
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    mana costs are a percentage of base mana pool.
    before expansion hit we had gear many tiers past the base 50 set
    At the moment we are using relatively basic gear for 60

    so basically our characters are, in a very real way, weaker at 60 than we were at 50
    Just to expand on this point further.

    WHM@50 has a base PIE 242
    Assume a crafted i70 set fully melded with PIE for a total of 139 PIE
    Total PIE is 242 + 139 = 381 PIE for a total of 4,605 MP
    Cure costs 133 MP @ 50 so you can cast a total of 34 Cures with this MP pool.

    WHM@60 has a base PIE 261
    Assume a crafted i180 set fully melded with PIE for a total of 494 PIE
    Total PIE is 261 + 494 = 755 PIE for a total of 14,080 MP
    Cure costs 422 MP @ 60 so you can cast a total of 33 Cures with this MP pool.

    That's pretty comparable. Can do the math for the "ilvl" cap as of 2.1 and (most likely) 3.1.


    WHM@50 has a base PIE 242
    Assume a crafted i90 set fully melded with PIE for a total of 206 PIE
    Total PIE is 242 + 206 = 468 PIE for a total of 5,135 MP
    Cure costs 133 MP @ 50 so you can cast a total of 38 Cures with this MP pool.

    WHM@60 has a base PIE 261
    Assume a crafted i210 set fully melded with PIE for a total of 821 PIE
    Total PIE is 261 + 821 = 1,082 PIE for a total of 16,195 MP
    Cure costs 422 MP @ 60 so you can cast a total of 38 Cures with this MP pool.

    So, yes, an i130 healer at 50 will be capable of much more for level 50 content than an i210 healer at 60 for level 60 content.

    [EDIT] Just some perspective with an i130 set @ 50:

    WHM@50 has a base PIE 242
    Assume a crafted i130 set fully melded with PIE for a total of 279 PIE
    Total PIE is 242 + 279 = 521 PIE for a total of 5,711 MP
    Cure costs 133 MP @ 50 so you can cast a total of 42 Cures with this MP pool.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 09-22-2015 at 02:35 AM.

  8. #18
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    Winry Foxtail
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Broil and Deployment Tactics are freakin' epic. Dissipation, not so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    60: Dissipation
    Restores 20% of maximum MP.
    Takes 20% of the caster's life.
    Cooldown: 30s
    Maybe your fairy gets temporarily immobilized for 10 seconds of insta-casts of healing spells. All fairy abilities are on cooldown at the end of the Dissipation. Cooldown: 150 seconds.
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    Last edited by Negafox; 09-22-2015 at 04:45 AM.

  9. #19
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    Espikes Darkwind
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Since we all know that scholar abilities pretty much past 52 are pretty situational. These are the scholar abilities we should have got.

    60: Dissipation
    Restores 20% of maximum MP.
    Takes 20% of the caster's life.
    Cooldown: 30s
    Isn't Convert already in the game? XD

    Also, why is it that a large majority of skills you sometimes create usually have a life steal to the user? Don't healers already have a pretty low HP pool as it is?

    Just wondering is all.
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  10. #20
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    Ferric Fireheart
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    Just curious, what if disappation on top of what it already did, doubled any effects on the fairy. So whispering dawn would give a twice a potent regen and fey wind have a 6% attack speed boost to party members
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