Why does Ysayle want to protect Nidhogg? (spoilers)

[Alleo]

@Februs: Well I only wrote my post because the person that I answered to, wanted to kill all people in Ishgard and put the whole blame onto them. I know that the dragons are not innocent either thats why I said that I liked how they did the story because in the end nobody was truly the one to blame completely. Both sides made and still makes mistakes but at the same time there are good beings on both side too.

I am not really sure if the Allagans were there before the dragons arrived ^^; I believe the dragons where there first. Midgardsormr also arrived with eggs so he was the only adult dragon at that moment and it seems that he had a mission from Hydaelyn herself (protecting that lake) so I would not really paint them as the enemies here. It took some time for his children to grow and for them to breed all those other dragons so they had to be on the planet for quite some time. And I am going to be truthful..even if the dragons somehow attacked them, it gave them no right to capture and torture the dragons like they did. Torturing someone is not defending yourself. And the Bahamut they captured was the primae that his wife summoned after he was killed. Even she was shocked how brutal and horrible that primae was so it seems that the true Bahamut was not like that. So maybe I have missed something or already forgot it but where exactly do they say that the dragons started it?

And after I got to Azys Lla my opinion about the one part of Allagans (since not everyone had to be like that) that did all of that got even worse..that place is really horrible..

Well after I saw that echo scene I really believed that they felt guilty for what they had done. I think they might have realized what this would mean for the peace they had with the dragon. And they did it out of pure greed..Since nearly all bad things in the story right now happened thanks to the Ascians I believe that they had their hand in this too..

Yes Nidhogg is clearly portrayed as a truly bad dragon. I felt bad for him at first, because he did lose his sister, but after I learned that he choses to torment Ishgard all those many many years every bit of sympathy was gone. And even if he orchestrated the whole thing from the start this makes him a bad dragon but not the whole race. Heck even Midgardsormr seems to be a little bit shocked about him.

On our journey we also met some really good dragons and at the same time really good people so no side is truly bad and I just dislike that some people paint any side as the evil one that has to be killed even though its just some bad apples that paint them that way..

[Februs]

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For the most part I'm in total agreement with you. I was just pointing out that there are some serious gaps and some shady implications made in the story.

Also, I never said the Dragons attacked first (though I can see how my wording implied that). I only meant to point out that the Allagans were the natural residents of this world, and the Dragons were not. Assuming the Allagans had been settled before Middy made his cosmic journey to the planet with those eggs, it's not difficult to see how the Allagans might have taken issue with a brood of dragons descending from the sky and claiming a bunch of land for themselves. It is implied in the wording of the story that this is the way it happened, because Middy says that, after they came to the planet, Bahamut and his mate set off by themselves to settle some land. Middy wouldn't even have been involved in the first contact.

However, even if the wording is somehow ambiguous and the dragons did, in fact, arrive and settle before the Allagan's evolved (which is unlikely, since the dragons would have been there to witness the entire rise of the allagan species, let alone their empire, and would have been light-years ahead of them in terms of population growth and land ownership) we're still talking about a species that evolved naturally on this planet versus one that came from the stars. Hence, conflict.

None of this excuses the Allagan's mistreatment of the dragons they captured (don't care about the Bahamut copy, since he's not real and just a Primal), but the Allagan's are certainly more sympathetic than the story has made them out to be. After all, they would have been defending their homes against what seemed to be monstrously powerful creatures whose leader is just shy of being a Celestial God. In that kind of environment, it's not hard to see how their culture leaped to such methods of warfare. Science and War tend to lead to very efficient (though often cruel and heartless, in hindsight) methodologies.