Dear Yoshi P: What is your vision?

[Rhomagus]

what user just said again lol, will we see party play in our missions an story like ffxi, will there ever be full 8man party grinds again. they spoke pvp but what it will be like? prior it would of been thought to not be a big thing in it, maybe mini games, but the direction in weak content might have them think they need to make up for it in better pvp like in other fail pve games. course i'm looking forward to hamlets, ...that we still know not much about but that is already on way. do they really need to keep us in suspense, ...we are playing a game that we bought and failed launch ...we still playing and waiting, there is no need for the antics ...just tell us ..i don't need a thread every week little by little or any of that, just lay it out.... who sits on forums all day when a game launches right? no one, i never was on a forum a day in life for ffxi or any mmo after. stop pussyfooting around and just give it to us.

Those are all specific questions, not a vision.

[Rhomagus]

I've read pretty well every update and interview and all I see is someone saying "We are fixing the game, it will be fun, we wont tell you when or how but someday it will be fun"

Then you're not reading between the lines.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

Personally I don't care. I want the game to be successful though and as someone who works in marketing I realize that not having a clear vision when a bunch of better more competitive games are coming out will result in a disaster even if the game gets good.

I'm not asking for him to lay out a bunch of crazy details. Just simply state what his plans for the next year or so are in general. like what he -wishes- he could do. just so players can get an understanding of what FFXIV will be like in the future.

To put it another way, if Yoshi P had to advertise this game 2 years from now what would the ad be like? Would there be epic dragon fights? Zones for pvp? tons of raids? etc.

He's already stated his plans. Read the last two letters. Hell 1.201.21 may take up to 6 months, that's half a year. I'm sure he's wants the epic battles and PvP(he said he wants to bring PvP into the game) but he's probably not worried about that stuff right now because he wants to put stuff in the game that should have been there from the get go. The man hasn't been on the job for a year yet and you mouthbreathers are going crazy.

[Azurymber]

Then you're not reading between the lines.

If you're so skilled at reading between the lines then instead of telling people "go do the leg work its really there i swear it" write out what you personally think his vision is from reading between the lines.

otherwise the argument is pointless. I can just as easily argue that if you read between the lines he is clearly stating the game will be shut down soon. Completely untrue, but when you read between the line you "interpret" and that's not always correct.

[Rhomagus]

Personally I don't care. I want the game to be successful though and as someone who works in marketing I realize that not having a clear vision when a bunch of better more competitive games are coming out will result in a disaster even if the game gets good.

I'm not asking for him to lay out a bunch of crazy details. Just simply state what his plans for the next year or so are in general. like what he -wishes- he could do. just so players can get an understanding of what FFXIV will be like in the future.

To put it another way, if Yoshi P had to advertise this game 2 years from now what would the ad be like? Would there be epic dragon fights? Zones for pvp? tons of raids? etc.

He's done this. He'll ask his marketing director if he needs to make an official announcement. More than likely he'll do this once they start charging.

[Rhomagus]

but that one thing made this game absolutely better in my opinion. but either way minus that what do u have... nothing right now. what would we have in same time with tanaka? dunno but i would of liked to have seen that over yoshi's.

I'm also curious as to what it would of been like under Tanaka. Not sure if we'd have official forums.

[weeble]

large group gaming ..even though it was a grind rather then say public quests like in gw2 that is on way, it still big group play just for simple grinds. what would of end game been like then, heck even dungeons if they stuck with 15man. and i don't mean the negative effects but if actually done correctly.

even as we speak, what we gonna get hamlets? what u think they will end up being 16-32man events tops? (no idea by way cause again they still playing this out like every week we need to look an wait to find out instead of releasing what they do know) they took'ith away and the lord'ith want to give'ith back now in a form of some content lol.

it was just easier to picture a better future with even just that then what we have now.

[Konachibi]

"Yoshida: I love FFVII. It’s got this powerful feeling much like an MMO. You have your main story, mini games, character development, all in this amazingly powerful package. When I talk with people in North America or Europe, many of them say they’ll never forget the impact of that game. If we can create that type of powerful experience within Eorzea, I think FFXIV will have a firm place among MMORPGs."

^ I like this part, perhaps as the game goes on, each expansion pack will be the equivalent in-game of perhaps 10-20 years passing by, so technology increases visually as you play. Eventually airships become more and more advanced, small villages build into large towns and Ul'dah becomes the FFXIV equivalent of Midgar.

I think Tanaka and Yoshi's view of FFXIV are totally different though, Tanaka had some grand scheme using what the game utilised at release, but it was too new and hard to develop content for because it was an idea that they'd need a new way of thinking about. So players complained because of the lack of content that it possessed.

Where as it seems Yoshi's plan for the game is to make it look more familier to players by changing many of it's aspects to things we've either seen in past final fantasy games/mmo or things we've seen in other games that have done well for themselves. Once that is done, then develop the plot.

So at the moment whilst we're playing it's really more like playing a game whilst it's still in it's development phase. We have the engine and the simple systems but need to wait for them to put the more complex things in.

[Rhomagus]

If you're so skilled at reading between the lines then instead of telling people "go do the leg work its really there i swear it" write out what you personally think his vision is from reading between the lines.

otherwise the argument is pointless. I can just as easily argue that if you read between the lines he is clearly stating the game will be shut down soon. Completely untrue, but when you read between the line you "interpret" and that's not always correct.

No, absolutely not. And I already said why I wouldn't paraphrase but I did it anyway.

You want specifics and you can't get specifics. That's why this argument is a waste of time, not because the vision isn't there.

And you could argue that. That's the problem with paraphrasing. But I'm very well aware that whatever I write will not be heeded to, because it's only my opinion, and I don't even have enough faith in that to pass it off as someone else's opinon.

[Azurymber]

He's already stated his plans. Read the last two letters. Hell 1.201.21 may take up to 6 months, that's half a year. I'm sure he's wants the epic battles and PvP(he said he wants to bring PvP into the game) but he's probably not worried about that stuff right now because he wants to put stuff in the game that should have been there from the get go. The man hasn't been on the job for a year yet and you mouthbreathers are going crazy.

I didnt ask for plans. i asked for a vision, a general overview of plans for the future. Not specific plans about whats coming out in the next patch, but how the general feel of the game will be a year from now.

From a marketing point of view:
Different MMO's appeal to different people
there are the easy-mode jump around ones like WoW
story rich ones
Cute-based ones
serious + story heavy ones
etc

I want to know what this game will feel like in a year so both I and others will know if its the game for us.

What if they changed the entire game to copy hello kitty and made the game pink? Would you keep playing ?
What if they got rid of levels and equipment and made it easy to get everything, would you still think its the mmo for you?

People deserve to know what they are waiting for. Will it be an FFXI-2? Or will it go in a much different direction? Will it become pvp heavy? Raid heavy? will there be more fantasy? More zones? Stronger story?

I want to know what strengths this game will -eventually- have and what will -eventually- set it apart from others.

And i think a lot of other people want to know that as well.