Dear Yoshi P: What is your vision?

[User201109011315]

God, your threads are annoying. The vision is already there. Are you asking where the world is going story wise? Review the lore. What are you talking about? They are redoing basic systems in the game then eventually expanding on this vision you seem to think is not already there.

If you use intelligent thought, and take the quotes that were kindly copied and given, you could start to form a safe assumption as to where the game will be going. Of course, further explanation on this would be nice. However, when things are undergoing development you can't expect full disclosure on these things. Maybe you don't know because they don't know. Maybe they know and don't want to tell you until their work is finished.

What gets me is you'd rather know all these specifics regarding the direction, when you were just arguing immersion in another thread. Isn't the point to um... not know these things and watch them unfold?

As someone said, FFXIV is not very feature-rich. FFXIV has like no features. We don't need to know the details of the story and have it spoiled for us, but we would like to know in what guise the lore will be told to us or how it will play (large scale PvE, siege warfare, PvP, dynamic quest chains, sandbox features, player run companies, naval battles, swimming, blah blah blah), and also why they are implementing these features over other features (i.e., what is the design philosophy behind the game and what do they think will make a good MMO that will compete in today's market).

Gosh, you act like we asked what's the meaning of life or something.

[Rhomagus]

The only thing he has ever said that imparted some sense of vision is when he mentioned "the conductor approach" to SE's current design philosophy.

It wasn't elaborated on much after that.

That is the only sense of their vision I have got so far.

That, with what's already there, is what you've got then.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

Right now many people have taken a break, or are playing less, waiting to see if the game becomes something that appeals to them. Currently, the future of this game is somewhat unknown.

No, most people are waiting until the game isn't broken anymore.

That doesn't inspire much enthusiasm. And quite frankly frightens me, because FFXIV is quite an atypical MMO in many respects and I'm glad of it! I just hope he shows some restraint when he hacks away at the game with the pretense of standardising it.

Yeah very atypical, with it's horrible, laggy UI, tedious crafting system, wide empty worlds, cheap questing system(guildleves), boring story, terrible battle system (pre 1.18), unoptimized game engine, and unfriendly market system. I guess the only thing that was kinda unique about XIV was the Armoury system and even then it wasn't needed in this game because everyone can play every class. If this game was like WoW where you could have only one class, then the armoury system could have been something where you picked skills from other classes to build your own unique class.

[Rhomagus]

"I want people to love this game and I want people to do anything they want anyway they want" is not a vision. Its just a generic marketing statement.

Seriously.

Read the quotes, read between the lines. You'll get the best semblance of a vision that you can get. It's right there, that's not all that's to it. I'm not going to paraphrase him for you. You get it straight from the horses mouth. Look deeper. I'm not going to do all the work for you.

[Rhomagus]

Their focus is on fixing the current game, their "Vision" for stuff to come has yet to fully manifest since all their time and resources are dumped into making the game appropriate for PS3 release, those who watch anxiously for good news and us loyal players. Asking Yoshi for his vision is like asking Sony how they plan to make a PS5 before they even started work on the PS4.

Precisely this, but you've got the best idea so far in from the quotes in the second post.

[weeble]

what user just said again lol, will we see party play in our missions an story like ffxi, will there ever be full 8man party grinds again. they spoke pvp but what it will be like? prior it would of been thought to not be a big thing in it, maybe mini games, but the direction in weak content might have them think they need to make up for it in better pvp like in other fail pve games. course i'm looking forward to hamlets, ...that we still know not much about but that is already on way. do they really need to keep us in suspense, ...we are playing a game that we bought and failed launch ...we still playing and waiting, there is no need for the antics ...just tell us ..i don't need a thread every week little by little or any of that, just lay it out.... who sits on forums all day when a game launches right? no one, i never was on a forum a day in life for ffxi or any mmo after. stop pussyfooting around and just give it to us.

[Rhomagus]

Fixing the game how? To answer that question involves a direction/vision.

Ugh.

Letter from the Producer. They come out on almost a bi weekly basis. Read them. Poor over old ones. You'll find your answers. They won't be definite but they're the best you can get. Also read the 4gamer interviews and the Gamasutra interview. You can then start pinning a philosophy on his style then you'll get an idea, while fuzzy, of his vision.

You need to do the legwork.

[Rhomagus]

this is a serious problem. When much better MMO's are released why would anyone even care to think of FFXIV if all it is, is a "work in progress" with no sense what so ever of what it will someday become?

The game needs a vision + somewhat of a timeline at some point. And since they game was supposed to be fixed by the end of the summer, now is getting to that point. (Although I realize it won't really be fixed for another half year)

You don't know this and he said they'd have the foundations laid out by this summer. He even gave you a list of things that would be done by this summer. C'mon.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

I wonder what Tanaka's vision for this game was? Did he even have one? I guess it was to create an even bigger time sink than FFXI and to keep people playing as less as possible.

[Rhomagus]

Vision, direction, design philosophy, approach

Call it what you will, all these things are necessary when adding content, but also when making changes to preexisting content too. People say they can't have a vision until they change/fix the game, but changing and fixing the game blindly with no direction or design philosophy is a principle I fail to understand, and quite frankly, is a huge problem if this is actually what's happening.

I mean, for example, there have been lots of "fixes" that have made me go "wtf" because they basically changed something I liked about the game in the first place.

So what was the motivation behind this change/fix? What was the approach, design philosophy, vision, direction, if any, that motivated these specific changes and "fixes" ? That's what I would like to know.

It's there. Read it.