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    I wonder how profitable are such huge breaks between patches. It's obviously the game is going to lose a huge number of subscribers. Vacation or not, 5 months is a long time period when there's so little endgame content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I wonder how profitable are such huge breaks between patches. It's obviously the game is going to lose a huge number of subscribers. Vacation or not, 5 months is a long time period when there's so little endgame content.
    And they'll be right back at 3.1. Curiosity will get the better of them and they will resub, Let them get a break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I wonder how profitable are such huge breaks between patches.
    More profitable than half your development staff dying of heart failure from working 80 hour weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrasteia View Post
    More profitable than half your development staff dying of heart failure from working 80 hour weeks.
    5 months, man. 5 months break. 5 months of no content. And then we'll get 2 dungeons which are straight lines with 3 boring bosses and a bunch of boring trash in between.
    People really are going to excuse this in the game they are playing and are paying for?
    I understand there are no self-respecting customers among fanboys, but c'mon, even YOU should understand 5 months is a bit too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    5 months, man. 5 months break. 5 months of no content. And then we'll get 2 dungeons which are straight lines with 3 boring bosses and a bunch of boring trash in between.
    People really are going to excuse this in the game they are playing and are paying for?
    I understand there are no self-respecting customers among fanboys, but c'mon, even YOU should understand 5 months is a bit too long.
    I'm curious as to which game it is that you're comparing FFXIV to, where 3 months is standard between patches of XIV's quality and they NEVER delay for 5 months (this is the first time we'll be five months between major patches, and that's if you don't include red scrips/Alex/Savage as a major patch).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony_BoB View Post
    I'm curious as to which game it is that you're comparing FFXIV to, where 3 months is standard between patches of XIV's quality and they NEVER delay for 5 months (this is the first time we'll be five months between major patches, and that's if you don't include red scrips/Alex/Savage as a major patch).
    I don't want to compare to anything. I'm just disappointed the developers left us with nothing to do for 5 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I don't want to compare to anything. I'm just disappointed the developers left us with nothing to do for 5 months.
    Oh, so, you're just having a moan/venting rather than expressing what you think are realistic expectations? Just checking (and genuinely NO sarcasm there, or anything like it - I mean, I was disappointed in the delay too, and moaned with my FC pals, but I at least don't feel that there's nothing to do and certainly understand that asking for more is not reasonable).

    I have no problems with people having a moan. I just think people who genuinely believe this isn't up to standard need a reality check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViktorMestrovic View Post
    Telling us that you're going to be lazy and create 210 pink gear that has random old appearances so you don't have to develop new models... lol.. another easy peasy ctish raid..probably with ilvl 200 or 190 gear.. and mob grinding the islands for those pink items.. I'm sorry, but since HV release this game is going the route of 1.0 failure.
    Indeed, the shortcuts in this game so that designers don't actually have to come up with new designs are rather...peculiar. HW being an actual expansion - and look at all the "new" leveling gear reusing models from old tomestone pieces! Look at leveling dungeon drops using the very same models with different paintjobs! Meh. Void Ark also looks interesting, but yes, it also looks like a lot of rehashed designs again.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViktorMestrovic View Post
    Their dev team is not very large... let's forget about deserving vacation and let's get better servers and stop being cheap.
    This has been increasingly glaring indeed. I don't think I've seen or heard variations of "hardware limitations" and "network restrictions" and "the team is small" and "would be too difficult" used as frequently and as many times in other games as I have been seeing and hearing it here. When at the same time boasting large numbers and reporting huge profits. It's shady and it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViktorMestrovic View Post
    Hire more staff and quit releasing boring content and content that doesn't really do jack all for the gaming experience..oh look something like a moogle house!!.. sort of... This is what they spend their time working on while there are so many other glaring issues?
    Just take a look at the dungeon models. ... No wait, model. I don't think there's more than one. It has been the same since...the beginning? And for quite a long while we have been saying how boring and un-fun it is. Effect? Nothing. We even get the expert dungeons reduced from three to two, and while HW brought two that were visually new, at least, 3.1 is bringing one new and one we already have. They work on adding features and new visuals and furnitures to houses? When the whole housing system is a huge letdown, with availability so disproportionate it's out of this world? With no plans on actually fixing it, just a vague "we'll add more servers in the future", when it's evident that that can't solve the core issue? Um.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViktorMestrovic View Post
    The most sickening part of this entire situation is that ironic Yoshida npc quest that tells us they learned from their mistakes and actually listen to their players now.. what a load of garbage. They aren't going to listen until they see how many subs vanished at the end of September/October. Artificially inflating subs with promises of Twintania mounts from ppl dumping their cash to do it, because their actual friends refuse to touch this game is not going to be there this month. It's time for the SE development staff to "get good."
    This here. I clearly remember phrases like "break of trust" in regards to 1.0 - and then they went ahead and did it again, first with the housing, and a few more times with other things since then. And sorry, but I don't feel like they're working to repair any of it. The cash shop, the retainers, the hair design contest, the transfers - er. No. Just no. They might be listening to their Japanese playerbase, for all I know, but I can't feel like they're listening to anyone else, not when so many things are broken and left alone for so long. I'm not doubting the fact that they're working their butts off, either, they do seem too passionate to slack off. The problem is that the focus is not where it should be.

    Viktor, you're speaking truth there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    5 months, man. 5 months break. 5 months of no content. And then we'll get 2 dungeons which are straight lines with 3 boring bosses and a bunch of boring trash in between.
    People really are going to excuse this in the game they are playing and are paying for?
    I understand there are no self-respecting customers among fanboys, but c'mon, even YOU should understand 5 months is a bit too long.
    Clearly someone's never played other mmos. lets look at WoW's 5.4 lasted over a year, their average patch cycle is 6 months upwards. FFxiv has some of the quickest patch cycles to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinestra View Post
    Clearly someone's never played other mmos. lets look at WoW's 5.4 lasted over a year, their average patch cycle is 6 months upwards. FFxiv has some of the quickest patch cycles to.
    The thing is, excluding Warlords and Cata the patches had more content than FFXIV for the most part. It's not quite fair to compare 6 months for 10+ bosses to 4-5 months for 4. WoW has gone down the shitter though, so I don't suppose that matters. Yoshida did make mention of increasing the patch delay to make larger patches (similar to WoW), but believed it wasn't the way to go due to people unsubscribing, and that he hasn't built loyalty or whatever to keep people subscribed for that long without new content.
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