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    Actually in the beginning, servers were place names like Fabul, Besaid, Selbina etc. There were no locations attached to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    Actually in the beginning, servers were place names like Fabul, Besaid, Selbina etc. There were no locations attached to them.
    Yes, because everyone knew that the location is Tokyo. It was not neccessary to mention it.
    But there was also a free server transfer to the first new server with an EU tag during server merges 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    As said, before 2.0 this was the server situation (everything was Japan or NA/EU):



    Before that everything was in Japan only.
    People have choosen their server in the character creator, not on Lodestone



    In the character creator it was clearly marked which servers in the NA/EU datacenter is for european players (even if located in Montreal).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    People have choosen their server in the character creator, not on Lodestone.
    If you cant read the date I will write it for you, it says:
    "Applications will be accepted until July 15, 2013"

    As an old player and like many others, that was way before the launch of FFXIV: ARR which was August 27, 2013

    If anyone is clueless to what happened please go read this post:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...93#post3328293
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piscodaemon View Post
    If you cant read the date I will write it for you, it says:
    "Applications will be accepted until July 15, 2013"

    As an old player and like many others, that was way before the launch of FFXIV: ARR which was August 27, 2013

    If anyone is clueless to what happened please go read this post:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...93#post3328293
    Which was after Beta 3 (read: Open Beta) so stop being double standard yourself - if you were legacy you had plenty of time (4 month of beta) to get your server right

    Jesus, some people need to stop whining
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magistrella View Post
    Which was after Beta 3 (read: Open Beta) so stop being double standard yourself - if you were legacy you had plenty of time (4 month of beta) to get your server right

    Jesus, some people need to stop whining
    There are many posts in this thread explaining why people didn't see any reason to just randomly move to another server just because "EU" labels were added to them. It is obvious why the situation and choice is now completely different than it was back in the launch of 2.0. Furthermore, giving this option to players who want to move would not cause any harm to anyone, in fact it could have an opposite effect.

    There's no reason to express anger at people who are making a completely reasonable request that doesn't seem to concern you in any way. Of course you could try to argue how giving this option could have some negative effects on the playerbase, if you truly have something to say about it other than trying to insult people who are actually contributing to the discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    There are many posts in this thread explaining why people didn't see any reason to just randomly move to another server just because "EU" labels were added to them.
    Well i guess people need to grow a brain then when it was said in the announcements "We recommend you choose a Server in your region" and what EU means - pretty strange that Chaos has always consisted of EU Servers only isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscodaemon View Post
    1. We never chose the wrong server. We joined one of the old Five servers they were all labeled as NA/EU (posted the pic before- but here its again incase you missed it http://i.imgur.com/FqIMl3S.jpg) it was on 2.0 launch that it was made into NA only.

    2. Asking for equal treatment is not a double standard.

    3. If you don't like reading complaints, you aren't affected by this, why are you even commenting?

    4. If this was the other way around, EU getting free transfer but NA paying for it, all who are against it now would rage about it being unfair, and that's why all of you are double-standard.
    • Wrong - Servers were listed EU or NA in Open Beta in the Server List when you logged in - get your facts right: Only the Datacenters where marked as NA/EU where you clicked on - i don't give a damn about your World Transfer Screenshots that you post again and again - you could've looked up how Servers where labled before you choose one
    • Equal Treatment would mean that you actually need to be treated equally. You choose to have a bad connection once you choose a NA Server and not a EU one - your connection is not getting worse when the move happens - NA players connections that are on EU Servers will - so they get a special treatment. You don't because nothing changes for you, except for your desire to play on a server with less ping - but that's not SE's problem
    • I don't care about your complaints - i just can't stand people crying over entitlement when it was obvious since the last beta which Server belonged to which territory
    • No - i wouldn't rage against it. Because nothing would change for me. If i play with 50-75ms or 25ms doesnt do shit in a MMO for me, get your T3 routing straight im sitting in the middle of Europe too

    And now get over it - SE either will or won't allow Free Transfers ON the Chaos Data Center - my bet is they won't so they don't overload the, mostly already strained, servers (Especially Balmung - poor fellows can't even get in their workshops because the server has no free instances in the evening)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magistrella View Post
    (Especially Balmung - poor fellows can't even get in their workshops because the server has no free instances in the evening)
    This being on Aether datacentre where the NA population of Chaos can now transfer to with no restrictions.

    Equal treatment would mean NA players shouldn't get a free transfer. To use your logic "You chose to have a bad connection once you chose a NA server and not an EU one' didn't the NA players choose to have a bad connection when they chose an EU server?

    The doublethink is strong in this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magistrella View Post
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    See you can’t really make a good argument, you said you saw the pic of world transfer yet still saying same thing over and over. For your information by the time servers were changed into EU or NA it was too late the world transfer has ended before the start of open beta which was phase 4, you even acknowledged it yourself.

    And yes NA picking EU servers and EU picking NA server should be treated equally they both did the same thing and If we are talking about me then yes when I picked the server it had EU next to it, but in your case you are only looking at it in a one sided perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magistrella View Post
    Well i guess people need to grow a brain.
    Just because people do not agree with you does not mean they are stupid, what a logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magistrella View Post
    And now get over it - SE either will or won't allow Free Transfers ON the Chaos Data Center - my bet is they won't so they don't overload the, mostly already strained, servers (Especially Balmung)
    Balmung is NA server and with no free transfer from NA to EU server it will be overloaded even more with people from chaos moving in.

    Anyway I have voiced my opinion, talking to you won’t benefit me anyway and it’s like talking to a brick wall, also here is the pic in case you missed it for a 3rd time >> http://i.imgur.com/FqIMl3S.jpg :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magistrella View Post
    Which was after Beta 3 (read: Open Beta) so stop being double standard yourself - if you were legacy you had plenty of time (4 month of beta) to get your server right

    Jesus, some people need to stop whining

    1. We never chose the wrong server. We joined one of the old Five servers they were all labeled as NA/EU (posted the pic before- but here its again incase you missed it http://i.imgur.com/FqIMl3S.jpg) it was on 2.0 launch that it was made into NA only.

    2. Asking for equal treatment is not a double standard.

    3. If you don't like reading complaints, you aren't affected by this, why are you even commenting?

    4. If this was the other way around, EU getting free transfer but NA paying for it, all who are against it now would rage about it being unfair, and that's why all of you are double-standard.
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