Suggestion: Allow Free Transfers TO European Data Center

[raela]

Urgh... Wait 5 years for an EU data centre; have to pay for the transfer and NA/JP wanting to transfer away don't.

Way to appreciate about your European playerbase SE.

I'm probably gonna pony up and pay anyway because Balmung is gonna get absolutely RAMMED. Unless I'm missing something, anyone can create alts on Chaos now and transfer them to Balmung for free, which is currently the only way to make characters on Balmung and has been for several months.

My understanding was free transfers only applied to characters already on Chaos at the time of the announcement - check the date. People who make new characters won't be able to transfer them for free.

[Aegis]

My understanding was free transfers only applied to characters already on Chaos at the time of the announcement - check the date. People who make new characters won't be able to transfer them for free.

I think that's for subscription period extensions

Subscription Period Extensions
In order to compensate players inconvenienced by this extended maintenance, those who meet the following requirements will have their subscriptions extended by the number of days required for maintenance:

Service accounts containing characters on the Worlds within the Chaos data center (Cerberus / Lich / Moogle / Odin / Phoenix / Ragnarok / Shiva / Zodiark) before Friday, September 18, 2015 at 9:00 (GMT).
Service accounts with an active subscription.


World Transfers
Because the Chaos data center is being relocated, certain players may find they are no longer playing on a desirable World. In order to address this issue, players will be allowed to transfer from Worlds within the Chaos data center to Worlds within the Elemental, Gaia, Mana, Aether, or Primal data centers free of charge for one week.

Residents in the North American region playing on the Chaos data center may begin to experience issues with latency after the transition. We ask that you try the game after the transfer, and if you experience connectivity issues disruptive to gameplay, consider using the free World transfer service while it is available.

* The free World transfer service will not apply to characters moved from the Elemental, Gaia, Mana, Aether, or Primal data centers to the Chaos data center.

As with normal World transfers, more than three days must have passed since last using this service. Please note that when applying for a World transfer via the FINAL FANTASY XIV: Mog Station, the total balance for any characters transferred from the Chaos data center should appear as $0.00. If your total balance is not $0.00 before finalizing your transaction, please confirm you are transferring characters from Worlds applicable to the free World transfer service.

[Kageru77]

Seems pretty simple to me. If your on Chaos, regardless of where you live in the world, and the datacenter move negatively impacts your gameplay, Its only right that your allowed to transfer for free since moving the data center was not your decision.

Anyone else not on Chaos, regardless of where you live in the world, remain UNAFFECTED by the datacenter move and are therefore OWED NOTHING.

Whatever your reasons, SE shouldnt be responisble for anyones decision not to use recommended regional servers, regardless wether you know exactly where theyre located or not. They likely new they would have an EU datacenter at some point in time, which is why Chaos was designated as EU.

pull your panties up and get over it

[Aegis]

Seems pretty simple to me. If your on Chaos, regardless of where you live in the world, and the datacenter move negatively impacts your gameplay

And EU players have been negatively impacted for 5 years now. US players might have to *shock, horror* put up with the ping the EU players have had to put up with for a very long time. We can't have that!

[Chrolo]

And EU players have been negatively impacted for 5 years now. US players might have to *shock, horror* put up with the ping the EU players have had to put up with for a very long time. We can't have that!

Thats not the point though. The move would make their gameplay experience worse from what it was. Its like you deciding to buy a Smartphone with Android 5.0 and then then the Smartphone manufacturer forces a downgrade to an earlier Android version onto your phone after using it a few years.

[Aegis]

Thats not the point though. The move would make their gameplay experience worse from what it was. Its like you deciding to buy a Smartphone with Android 5.0 and then then the Smartphone manufacturer forces a downgrade to an earlier Android version onto your phone after using it a few years.

Let's be a bit more accurate: It's exactly like Player A has been playing with 100-200 ms ping for 5 years and SE will charge them to drop to <100ms. Player B has been playing <100ms for 5 years and Se will give them a free service to avoid that ever changing.

Worst case for Player B is that they have to have the same level of service as Player A.

[Chrolo]

Let's be a bit more accurate: It's exactly like Player A has been playing with 100-200 ms ping for 5 years and SE will charge them to drop to <100ms. Player B has been playing <200ms for 5 years and Se will give them a free service to avoid that ever changing.

Worst case for Player B is that they have to have the same level of service as Player A.

If Player B was an European on and EU server and wants his ping to be 100-200ms, then yes he gets a free transfer to any NA datacenter to keep his ping the same. On the other side if he decides to stay he would have <100ms now.

This wouldnt apply to Player B being American playing on the EU server. He would have his ping increased from <100ms to 100-200ms, so yes he gets an free transfer or his gameplay worsens.

[Kageru77]

And EU players have been negatively impacted for 5 years now. US players might have to *shock, horror* put up with the ping the EU players have had to put up with for a very long time. We can't have that!

Dont get me wrong, I understand they should have had a EU datacenter, located in the EU from the start. Thats on them

Whats not on them, is your decision to not play on a datacenter designated as EU whatever your reasons may have been. Maybe it was friends, or your free company, or just the belief that the server you picked didnt matter. But now, that there is going to be a actual EU datacenter, all those things that made you chose a different server are irrelevant and you feel entitled to a free move? You chose a non designated EU datacenter at your own risk period. It was never a secret that there would someday be and actual EU datacenter, and maybe the amount of active subs hasnt necessitated one until now.

Again, if your not on Chaos, you remain unaffected and therefore are owed nothing. Yes youve been inconvenienced from the start, theres no doubt about that, but you chose to keep playing beyond your free trial, shitty ping included, and you chose a non EU datacenter, thats on you

[Aegis]

Whats not on them, is your decision to not play on a datacenter designated as EU whatever your reasons may have been. Maybe it was friends, or your free company, or just the belief that the server you picked didnt matter. But now, that there is going to be a actual EU datacenter, all those things that made you chose a different server are irrelevant and you feel entitled to a free move? You chose a non designated EU datacenter at your own risk period. It was never a secret that there would someday be and actual EU datacenter, and maybe the amount of active subs hasnt necessitated one until now.

Again, if your not on Chaos, you remain unaffected and therefore are owed nothing. Yes youve been inconvenienced from the start, theres no doubt about that, but you chose to keep playing beyond your free trial, shitty ping included, and you chose a non EU datacenter, thats on you

My reason is that an EU labeled datacentre didn't exist when I made my character. Also, the other datacentres have never been labeled as NA, they were NA/EU datacentres.

By your logic, why are NA players on Chaos owed anything? They chose an EU labeled data centre at their own risk. Why are they owed a free transfer?

If Player B was an European on and EU server and wants his ping to be 100-200ms, then yes he gets a free transfer to any NA datacenter to keep his ping the same. On the other side if he decides to stay he would have <100ms now.

This wouldnt apply to Player B being American playing on the EU server. He would have his ping increased from <100ms to 100-200ms, so yes he gets an free transfer or his gameplay worsens.

So player A pays to get <100ms ping, but player B does not. It's awfully selfish to believe you are owed a free transfer to have a <100ms ping, but others should pay for it.

[Chrolo]

By your logic, why are NA players on Chaos owed anything? They chose an EU labeled data centre at their own risk. Why are they owed a free transfer?

Because they cant just make your experience worse, without giving you anything in return. But they can offer you upgrades for money.

Dont get me wrong, i'm in no way against a free transfer to EU datacenters, but SE is also trying to make money out of it.