DRK MT A3S DPS

[Freyyy]

Saying "loot-whore" was not completely serious. But if you compare his gear with his WAR mate's gear, you can see a huge gap. This DRK has full i210 except the weapon and one crafted accessory. If he didn't "loot-whore" he most likely got super lucky with loot, and the result is basically the same.

[Kihra]

You are correct when you say the biggest problem with this site is that you can't see what gear setup the person was using at the time.

I have thought about using various stats to come up with an estimated item level. In Warcraft Logs the item level is included in the logs, so I was able to make ranking brackets based off item level. So I have the capability... I would just need a good model for item level estimation.

[Gangaloo]

I have thought about using various stats to come up with an estimated item level. In Warcraft Logs the item level is included in the logs, so I was able to make ranking brackets based off item level. So I have the capability... I would just need a good model for item level estimation.

While estimated item level would be nice... it still doesn't solve the problem of not knowing exactly what gear someone is using (from a tank's perspective). You still have to look at their total HP to make an educated guess on how much STR they have (substats really being an impossibility to gauge). Unfortunately, ACT doesn't record player stats (at least not to my knowledge) so it's not really a fault of your site.

Another problem that hasn't been mentioned here is DPS cheesing. However, I doubt there will ever be a fix for that.

Let's be real:

http://www.fflogs.com/rankings/7#boss=5001

2537 DPS MNK... best MNK in the world right?

Those SMN #'s are also "cheesed". :P

[RapBreon]

This is the reason why I'm not a big fan of this resurgence of DPS leaderboards, or at least how they're implemented currently.
There's nothing telling you what gear that person was wearing at the time, and it doesn't tell you if the group specifically altered tactics to inflate a single person's DPS.

At least back in 2.0/2.1, I only ever saw this kind of behavior in hidden away corners of the internet where someone tells a BLM they should be doing 450 DPS in Turn 1 while showing said person a parse of a single tank, overgeared ~1 minute kill. DPS leaderboards make setups like this seem like the norm.

Well yes, they're leaderboards, they're meant to represent the outliers, the precise opposite of a norm.

This is a problem with people not understanding how it works. To rank super high, is a team-game not an individual effort. Never has been.

Let's be real:

http://www.fflogs.com/rankings/7#boss=5001

2537 DPS MNK... best MNK in the world right?

Those SMN #'s are also "cheesed". :P

When you look at his other parses on other bosses. Yeah probs best MNK in the world currently, despite him 'cheesing Faust'.

[dank1]

This is the reason why I'm not a big fan of this resurgence of DPS leaderboards, or at least how they're implemented currently.
There's nothing telling you what gear that person was wearing at the time, and it doesn't tell you if the group specifically altered tactics to inflate a single person's DPS.

At least back in 2.0/2.1, I only ever saw this kind of behavior in hidden away corners of the internet where someone tells a BLM they should be doing 450 DPS in Turn 1 while showing said person a parse of a single tank, overgeared ~1 minute kill. DPS leaderboards make setups like this seem like the norm.

Thats because that info is irrelevant, all you should know is that it's possible if you want the same numbers push your class harder and think outside the box.
Hint: You wont get those numbers as drk being full vit spamming 123 aggro rotation while wearing your tanks dont dps headband

[stoxastic]

Chasing the top of dps leaderboards requires cheesing and or being catered to for every single job. Individual dps numbers correlated but not indicative of the skill level of the player.

Use these leaderboards as a way to gauge the ballpark dps needed to clear certain fights. #1 on the dps leaderboard for your job doesn't mean you're the best player at your job.

As for the OPs question, I would say you need to do at least 650 dps on DRK to not be considered a liability for A3S.

[Gangaloo]

When you look at his other parses on other bosses. Yeah probs best MNK in the world currently, despite him 'cheesing Faust'.

Yeah he's the MNK in my static group. He's a beast. The Faust cheese though was pretty funny.

[RapBreon]

Yeah he's the MNK in my static group. He's a beast. The Faust cheese though was pretty funny.

On a scale of one to Rockbreaker spam, where would you rate it?

I could imagine how much went into that 10 seconds of perfect balance on infinity dolls tho :P

[Airswimmer]

Thats because that info is irrelevant, all you should know is that it's possible if you want the same numbers push your class harder and think outside the box.
Hint: You wont get those numbers as drk being full vit spamming 123 aggro rotation while wearing your tanks dont dps headband

You aren't giving me any "hints", nor are you making a point.
The point is leader boards alter the meta and opinion of a community.
Someone who "cheesed" their DPS by having their party cater to them, or even worse like Bane-ing DoTs onto Faust adds/Titan's bombs, by even a slight amount will make people question if a player "just isn't good enough" if they don't match up to those numbers.
Simply put, DPS leader boards create unrealistic expectations from the community.

[KMFDM_Kid2000]

Maybe OT not MT.

Pay attention to the rotation and skills used, he's not OTing, there's grit on and 2 opening enmity combos. It seems he is indeed MTing