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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Not only do I doubt the NA team actually delivering these posts, even if they did, yoshi won't be there to read it. He's too busy having paid for vacations disguised as PR. From gamescom, to E3, to Pax, to China, to Korea, to TGS in the span of 3 months.
    If you was paying attention to all of this you would of noticed how completely exhausted Yoshi was when he was doing all this on release of 2.0 and even before the expansion release too.

    So to say he is taking "paid vacations" is kind of insulting to the amount of work the guy really does, what he really needs to do is pass the Producer job onto someone else, sadly I don't think anyone else could publicise the game with the enthusiasm that he holds and I certainly wouldn't want to remove him as Director for the game where he has done such a fine job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firepower View Post
    If you was paying attention to all of this you would of noticed how completely exhausted Yoshi was when he was doing all this on release of 2.0 and even before the expansion release too.

    So to say he is taking "paid vacations" is kind of insulting to the amount of work the guy really does, what he really needs to do is pass the Producer job onto someone else, sadly I don't think anyone else could publicise the game with the enthusiasm that he holds and I certainly wouldn't want to remove him as Director for the game where he has done such a fine job.

    I'd have more sympathy for the guys coding the 1.xx content that got completely trashed when the game turned 2.00.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    I'd have more sympathy for the guys coding the 1.xx content that got completely trashed when the game turned 2.00.
    As a software guy myself, I have to second this. Nothing could be worse than watching many years of my work get tossed into the fire. At least they got paid for it.

    Yeah, the job should get passed along. Not because I think Yoshida can't handle it, but rather so Yoshida can have a new passion project to do or something. He deserves a break after working on the same game for so many years.
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    Love this post. Too bad many people will disagree because they are not true fans of the MMO genre.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    As a software guy myself, I have to second this. Nothing could be worse than watching many years of my work get tossed into the fire. At least they got paid for it.
    Right? I remember yoshi saying that while he's giving more attention to the work on 2.0, he's still overseeing both 2.0 and 1.xx so he must have designed the 1.xx content himself (at least I hope so cause if not, that's even worse). So he basically he designed content that he didn't even believe in then?
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    Yeah, the job should get passed along. Not because I think Yoshida can't handle it, but rather so Yoshida can have a new passion project to do or something. He deserves a break after working on the same game for so many years.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Right? I remember yoshi saying that while he's giving more attention to the work on 2.0, he's still overseeing both 2.0 and 1.xx so he must have designed the 1.xx content himself (at least I hope so cause if not, that's even worse). So he basically he designed content that he didn't even believe in then?
    Yoshi-P had nothing to do with 1.0 content to my knowledge. Hiromichi Tanaka was the Producer of all 1.0 content and Nobuaki Komoto was Director. Both rightfully stepped down after the 1.0 version of XIV flopped monumentally and was in danger of being totally shut down.

    Yoshi-P was then brought on board as a final attempt to save the project, which he did. However he had no involvement in XIV before 2.0. Which means he has only been Producer and Director for 2 years of this games public life. He should be commended for bringing this game back from the brink, however he should not by any means pass the reigns onto a new Producer/Director. FFXIV would not be here if it was not for Yoshi-P. He was XIV's last chance, and considering ARR is the first FF title he has ever worked on, he has done an amazing job.

    He is not some old, tired, and worn designer that should be put out to pasture. He has a lot left to give to XIV.
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    Last edited by SoloWingMetatron; 09-17-2015 at 01:12 PM.

  7. #77
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    Wat? Yoshida took over 2 months after 1.0 launched..and this very dev team and Yoshida was working on 1.x from 1.1 until the end there 1.23...

    He had plenty of involvement in 1.x series. I was here for all of it..lol what are you talking about?

    When this game was 1.23 , it was going in a VERY innovative, original and fun direction..then 2.0 happened..bleh.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    He is not some old, tired, and worn designer that should be put out to pasture. He has a lot left to give to XIV.
    You're right. He has a lot more 1 dungeon and 1 reused dungeon every patch to give you.

    Though I suppose your forum join date is actually accurate.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    Wat? Yoshida took over 2 months after 1.0 launched..and this very dev team and Yoshida was working on 1.x from 1.1 until the end there 1.23...

    He had plenty of involvement in 1.x series. I was here for all of it..lol what are you talking about?

    When this game was 1.23 , it was going in a VERY innovative, original and fun direction..then 2.0 happened..bleh.
    Yoshi-P's credits officially state ARR(2.0) as his first venture into the XIV I.P. Although it is true once he was brought on board a number of smaller patches were released towards the end of 1.0 as a prelude to the official relaunch/re-branding of the game. Which was when 1.0 became free to play as compensation whilst work on ARR began. These patches were a means to tie up the loose ends in a nice bow before the switch was made (hence why they literally blew up the world via the Calamity) However almost all of 1.0 content had nothing to do with Yoshi-P. It was not until 2.0 that we saw the fruits of his labour which is why it is only 2.0 on wards in which he is credited as Producer and Director.

    The major faults of 1.0 were due to Tanaka and Komoto, nothing to do with Yoshi-P whatsoever.
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    Last edited by SoloWingMetatron; 09-17-2015 at 10:42 PM.

  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    Yoshi-P's credits officially state ARR(2.0) as his first venture into the XIV I.P. Although it is true once he was brought on board a number of smaller patches were relased towards the end of 1.0 as a prelude the official relaunch/re-branding of the game. However almost all of 1.0 content had nothing to do with Yoshi-P. It was not unntil 2.0 that we saw the fruits of his labour which is who it is only 2.0 on wards in which he is credited as Producer and Director.
    LOL He and this team made the 1.x series, they would post letter from the producer and put in patches and did player polls with us, etc, they were VERY open back then. I am a legacy player, are you trying to tell me he did not work on 1.x? Well, like Gardes said, your join date is accurate...LOL omg I am laughing so hard at this I can't stop coughing...is this real life?

    Tanaka and his team made 1.0, then Tanaka stepped down and was replaced with YOSHIDA : http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/new...povwURx23aOIng

    Even on Yoshida's wiki it says it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naoki_Yoshida

    In December 2010, he was taken off the Dragon Quest team and placed in charge of the staff that developed the massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) Final Fantasy XIV, which had been unsuccessful since its launch several months before.[2][5] Then company president Yoichi Wada attributed this decision to Yoshida's experience, "charismatic" leadership skills and "passionate" will to satisfy customers.
    GUESS THATS A LIE, Yoshida didn't make 1.x...IT MUST HAVE BEEN SOME MYSTERY MAN, well find him and bring him back please LOL

    Are you telling me the internet and all we experienced is a lie? Please stop trying to argue and just admit it, Yoshida and his team worked on 1.x.

    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    I am by no means insinuating the game is perfect. It has it's flaws, sure. But it did not get 5 million subscribers for no reason. That is more subs than XI ever had in it's entire lifespan already and only 600k subs below WoW currently. The game is doing bloody well for itself considering what was handed to him to fix from 1.0.
    LOL you really think this game has 5m subs? IT SAYS REGISTERED ACCOUNTS LOL OKAY...I know you're trolling for sure. This is too funny...
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    Last edited by Iromi; 09-17-2015 at 12:08 PM.

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