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    Quote Originally Posted by HYUU15 View Post
    My initial point was all about how I have more time to dedicate game than you. and your argument is that because you don't have the time I should play less? I don't understand how this is an argument.
    That's because that is *not* the point, at all. But, if you're bored, playing something else for a while would seem to be a logical suggestion. If you have more time to play than I do, thats great, go enjoy yourself, but likeI said, if you are bored, play something else a while. Coming to the general forum and demanding a disproportionate development effort be made to satisfy raiders deserves a respone from non raiders wondeting why even more should devoted to sections of the game that only a small fraction ofpeople willsee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    That's because that is *not* the point, at all.
    'What does Heavensward actually bring to the table as an expansion?' is literally the title of this post. If you require more explanation than that, then I can't help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    3.1 can't come soon enough
    Agreed. When the forum starts to get this bad, you know new content needs to come out soon. Unfortunately, that'll only quiet this forum down for about... maybe a week at most. And then this shit will start up again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    If I was that dev, I would suffer from massive reading comprehension problems.

    Most complaints are coming from people who praise the game as very fun, and they have certain issues with how somethings are happening and providing feedback. They go on to add that they've become bored as they've run out of things to do. That doesn't mean everything that they have done was not fun, or was boring.
    Late reply is late but:

    This is actually a personal issue I myself have with gaming communities. Indeed, as you mentioned, they claim that they like the game, but then they only complain about it. I've never liked mixed messages.

    It's also why I refuse to openly advertise any kind of fan work I do. Hell, it's why I'm close to giving up on ever being an artist and/or programmer of any sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruebladeNuke View Post
    Agreed. When the forum starts to get this bad, you know new content needs to come out soon. Unfortunately, that'll only quiet this forum down for about... maybe a week at most. And then this will start up again.
    Pretty much this and any game in general. I'm personally not bored with the game yet but I can see where the other side is coming from. For me, I just look forward to the new stuff we'll get (story, relic, fixes, etc). Mayhaps everyone needs to take a break from the forums for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Pretty much this and any game in general. I'm personally not bored with the game yet but I can see where the other side is coming from. For me, I just look forward to the new stuff we'll get (story, relic, fixes, etc). Mayhaps everyone needs to take a break from the forums for a while.
    I love you.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HYUU15 View Post
    'What does Heavensward actually bring to the table as an expansion?' is literally the title of this post. If you require more explanation than that, then I can't help you.
    I require no further explanation, perhaps you do though, since I was replying to this comment of yours;
    Quote Originally Posted by HYUU15 View Post
    My initial point was all about how I have more time to dedicate game than you. and your argument is that because you don't have the time I should play less? I don't understand how this is an argument.
    Shockingly identical comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruebladeNuke View Post
    Agreed. When the forum starts to get this bad, you know new content needs to come out soon. Unfortunately, that'll only quiet this forum down for about... maybe a week at most. And then this shit will start up again.
    That's one of the biggest issues that was being discussed earlier. Newly added content should stay relevant / interesting for more than a week or two. Unfortunately, the content they've been adding each patch (which, from what we've seen from the Live Letter, is going to follow the exact same formula as 2.x patches) does NOT stay relevant or interesting. So yes, people will get bored after a week, but that's not the players fault, that's a fault in content design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I require no further explanation, perhaps you do though, since I was replying to this comment of yours;


    Shockingly identical comments.
    of course they're identical. You missed the point of the first so I made the same point point again. Instead of saying 'I require no further explanation' you should give further explanation as to why your opinions are relevant at end game instead of resorting to ''ad hominem".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    That's because that is *not* the point, at all. But, if you're bored, playing something else for a while would seem to be a logical suggestion. If you have more time to play than I do, thats great, go enjoy yourself, but likeI said, if you are bored, play something else a while. Coming to the general forum and demanding a disproportionate development effort be made to satisfy raiders deserves a respone from non raiders wondeting why even more should devoted to sections of the game that only a small fraction ofpeople willsee.
    Disproportionate development effort?!! You mean all that 80% of the content that's just glamour, stuff that got outdated in a flash, crafting and gathering that not everyone finds as fun, the same 2 dungeons (and just dungeons in general), minions... and... glamour again? I mean if you are going to go there and say that just because YOU don't do end game means making content for end game isn't worth the devs time, I can turn it around on you. You really don't understand what it's been talked about here. It's end game. *end game* You don't do end game, therefore, with all due respect, you have no reason to come in here and tell us not to provide feedback when you don't even know the real state of it nor care about it.

    We didn't say the other content was not worth the devs time, unlike you, who are basically belittling people who do endgame. We are here to voice our concerns and you just belittle raiders. The things you post say a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurace1095 View Post
    That's one of the biggest issues that was being discussed earlier. Newly added content should stay relevant / interesting for more than a week or two. Unfortunately, the content they've been adding each patch (which, from what we've seen from the Live Letter, is going to follow the exact same formula as 2.x patches) does NOT stay relevant or interesting. So yes, people will get bored after a week, but that's not the players fault, that's a fault in content design.
    This is the point of the thread and reason why we are voicing our opinion and concern. The good thing is, you resumed it in 3 lines! I take your opinion very serious Sir!
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