What does Heavensward actually bring to the table as an expansion?

[TruebladeNuke]

3.1 can't come soon enough

Agreed. When the forum starts to get this bad, you know new content needs to come out soon. Unfortunately, that'll only quiet this forum down for about... maybe a week at most. And then this shit will start up again.

If I was that dev, I would suffer from massive reading comprehension problems.

Most complaints are coming from people who praise the game as very fun, and they have certain issues with how somethings are happening and providing feedback. They go on to add that they've become bored as they've run out of things to do. That doesn't mean everything that they have done was not fun, or was boring.

Late reply is late but:

This is actually a personal issue I myself have with gaming communities. Indeed, as you mentioned, they claim that they like the game, but then they only complain about it. I've never liked mixed messages.

It's also why I refuse to openly advertise any kind of fan work I do. Hell, it's why I'm close to giving up on ever being an artist and/or programmer of any sort.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Agreed. When the forum starts to get this bad, you know new content needs to come out soon. Unfortunately, that'll only quiet this forum down for about... maybe a week at most. And then this will start up again.

Pretty much this and any game in general. I'm personally not bored with the game yet but I can see where the other side is coming from. For me, I just look forward to the new stuff we'll get (story, relic, fixes, etc). Mayhaps everyone needs to take a break from the forums for a while.

[HYUU15]

Pretty much this and any game in general. I'm personally not bored with the game yet but I can see where the other side is coming from. For me, I just look forward to the new stuff we'll get (story, relic, fixes, etc). Mayhaps everyone needs to take a break from the forums for a while.

I love you.

[TruebladeNuke]

Pretty much this and any game in general. I'm personally not bored with the game yet but I can see where the other side is coming from. For me, I just look forward to the new stuff we'll get (story, relic, fixes, etc). Mayhaps everyone needs to take a break from the forums for a while.

*Shudders upon remembering some of the other forums and discussions on other games after reading the bolded*

Anyway, agreed again. Personally, I just wish people would stop posting like they're trying to strangle each others necks while we're all waiting for new content to come out, but I know there's nothing I can do about that. Taking a break from the forum is indeed a good suggestion though.

[aurace1095]

Agreed. When the forum starts to get this bad, you know new content needs to come out soon. Unfortunately, that'll only quiet this forum down for about... maybe a week at most. And then this shit will start up again.

That's one of the biggest issues that was being discussed earlier. Newly added content should stay relevant / interesting for more than a week or two. Unfortunately, the content they've been adding each patch (which, from what we've seen from the Live Letter, is going to follow the exact same formula as 2.x patches) does NOT stay relevant or interesting. So yes, people will get bored after a week, but that's not the players fault, that's a fault in content design.

[savarna]

That's one of the biggest issues that was being discussed earlier. Newly added content should stay relevant / interesting for more than a week or two. Unfortunately, the content they've been adding each patch (which, from what we've seen from the Live Letter, is going to follow the exact same formula as 2.x patches) does NOT stay relevant or interesting. So yes, people will get bored after a week, but that's not the players fault, that's a fault in content design.

This is the point of the thread and reason why we are voicing our opinion and concern. The good thing is, you resumed it in 3 lines! I take your opinion very serious Sir!

[SpookyGhost]

Late reply is late but:

This is actually a personal issue I myself have with gaming communities. Indeed, as you mentioned, they claim that they like the game, but then they only complain about it. I've never liked mixed messages.

It's healthy to be critical of things you like, especially when you pay monthly for it. Everyone here (aside from Kosmos) is specifically talking about endgame - the rest of the game is fine, it has it's flaws but they're minor and easily glossed over. Endgame is a specifically large portion of the game where you'll spend 99% of your time until the next expansion, and it's massively silly to just accept the plethora of horrible decisions that have been made since 2.0 simply because the MSQ was fine. It's like accepting the later half of Bravely Default just because you liked the first 4 chapters, except you're paying proportionally less for that game than this one.

[Kaurie]

Late reply is late but:

This is actually a personal issue I myself have with gaming communities. Indeed, as you mentioned, they claim that they like the game, but then they only complain about it. I've never liked mixed messages.

Generally speaking, people will complain about things that they care about, and not about things they don't care about. Why they care varies, but in a context of a video game it's usually because they either like or have liked the game.

Also complaints about a game of this magnitude =/= dissatisfaction with every aspect of the game. Our posts are focused, so we discuss our constructive criticsms while leaving out unfocused material such aspects of the game we enjoy. We could write an essay discussing every piece of content that we both like and hate for each and every post, but no one would read it.

Personally, I enjoy MMO's for the social aspect of the game. Playing single player games feels rather lonely now. I've tried GW2, Wildstar, WoW, Tera and a few other F2P games. Each game has done some things right and some things wrong. FFXIV seems to get more right than wrong compared to all else. For example I like in FFXIV:
-Tab targeting
-Raids
-Mobility in combat
-Trinity system
-Graphics
-Glamours
-Available races/classes
-Story
-Traditional style questing
-One character for all
-Flying
-Beautiful landscapes

I don't like:
-Lack of official parsing support
-Lack of official voice chat support
-Lack of replayability of awesome content (such as story)
-Despite 1 character for all, I feel forced into one job as I cannot properly gear my alternate jobs for the content I enjoy most (raids)
-Lack of experience gained in 50 dungeons, this would add a LOT of variety in to what you can do to go from 50-60
-The current maps (not the landscape, the actual maps)
-Method of gathering and crafting (i like GW2 style gathering and Wildstar style crafting)

and so on.

[Goodberry]

Good, balanced post, I agree with practically all you said, both on the "like" and "dislike" side.

I'd add on "like":
- Day/night cycle, weather effects
- The Beast Tribes and how they talk
- Most of the music

On "dislike":
- Not being able to group with your chocobo when soloing dungeons, or having a minion out at the same time, etc.
- Too many (and slow) loading screens
- FATEs should be more meaningful and rewarding, at all levels (I am tired of going to a FATE and finding nobody there!)

And yes, the current maps are really lousy, and make the world look smaller than it actually is. Make them WoW-style. Map the whole of a zone, and make us discover where we can or can't go.

[Daralii]

Good, balanced post, I agree with practically all you said, both on the "like" and "dislike" side.

I'd add on "like":
- Day/night cycle, weather effects
- The Beast Tribes and how they talk
- Most of the music

On "dislike":
- Not being able to group with your chocobo when soloing dungeons, or having a minion out at the same time, etc.
- Too many (and slow) loading screens
- FATEs should be more meaningful and rewarding, at all levels (I am tired of going to a FATE and finding nobody there!)

And yes, the current maps are really lousy, and make the world look smaller than it actually is. Make them WoW-style. Map the whole of a zone, and make us discover where we can or can't go.

The loading screens are an unfortunate result of PS3 limitations. Even 1.0 had them between regions, they were just hidden in the form of walking through straight tunnels for a bit.