What does Heavensward actually bring to the table as an expansion?

[Craiger]

If you're billing Neverreap and Fractal as "endgame" you should also be including Bismarck and Ravana EX and Alexander Normal.

Those are endgame too, but lets be real here, they don't have as much "pull" for you to keep doing them that long. Bismarck doesn't drop anything useful, and most players just farm it if you want a specific glamour. The weapons from Ravana can be useful, but even then, there is a limited amount of runs you do to get what you need.

Alexander Normal is relevant longer if you want to gear up a lot of jobs, but a lot of players just don't bother with it anymore... Like myself for example. I got what I need for my main after 5 weeks, and now I have gear for another job too if I want, but I don't see the point in doing that every week just to gear up more jobs.

It's the same for majority of players I think, and then it's just dungeons and Savage left pretty much.

[Ashkendor]

Those are endgame too, but lets be real here, they don't have as much "pull" for you to keep doing them that long. Bismarck doesn't drop anything useful, and most players just farm it if you want a specific glamour. The weapons from Ravana can be useful, but even then, there is a limited amount of runs you do to get what you need.

Alexander Normal is relevant longer if you want to gear up a lot of jobs, but a lot of players just don't bother with it anymore... Like myself for example. I got what I need for my main after 5 weeks, and now I have gear for another job too if I want, but I don't see the point in doing that every week just to gear up more jobs.

It's the same for majority of players I think, and then it's just dungeons and Savage left pretty much.

Yep, I agree a lot of the endgame content doesn't have much pull to keep you going back to it. I dunno what they were thinking with Bismarck Extreme basically being obsolete upon release. These days, I don't even do Expert Roulette unless I'm specifically asked to. I get my Esoterics from Alexander Normal and PvP. Last night my raid static spent a few hours selling some Ravana Extreme, which was a cool way to pass the time. Get some money, get some free Hive tokens, get some FFA drops; it all works out.

At this point in the game, I've been doing a lot of crafting and gathering as well as leveling up alt classes. I'm willing to give kind of a pass for the endgame content for the time being because I understand we haven't even seen the first major patch of the expansion and a lot of development time for the expac itself had to go into the leveling dungeons, the story, the skills, the maps, the additional content for DoH/DoL etc. Most of the people complaining about a lack of content seem to focus on one aspect of the game and ignore the rest of it, and are mostly complaining that there's no content specifically for their niche. I dunno. I just get tired of people saying that all we have is 2 dungeons and 1 raid, which isn't true at all. Hopefully 3.1 brings some fun stuff. ^^