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    Quote Originally Posted by fm_fenrir View Post
    Plunge has its moments of use, but they're super niche and I can't really come up with an example of a time you'd want to save it for anything besides extra off-GCD damage.
    It's not really a thing in savage, but in stuff like the last boss of library and Rav ex and hopefully future fights you can use plunge as a gap closer, which makes its edps more valuable than its face potency, and further closes the gap between drk and war in actual fight parses.

    edit: also Bismarcks back. so plenty of good uses outside savage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdorGrey View Post
    It's not really a thing in savage
    https://youtu.be/1l70m9UpaOQ?t=77

    Quote Originally Posted by ArdorGrey View Post
    If you're only 54 you don't have decimate yet. In large packs I like to try to build up a few stacks manually, pop vengeance and berserk to get 5 stacks, and then swap into deliverance, double decimate and OP spam.
    The only time you should use Decimate is if you have Infuriate or have 5 stacks left over from the previous pull. Manually building 5 stacks by using single target GCDs isn't worth the potency loss of not spamming OP for every single one of them.

    Infuriate -> HS -> Maim (as you're pulling) -> Veng + Bloodbath -> OP -> IR + Berserk -> OP -> Deliverance -> OP spam until something is dangerously close to being too low to get the full effect of Decimate -> Decimate -> whatever else you feel like doing, it's really situational beyond this point

    You either want to use your 5 stacks on Unchained or hold them for Decimate, since if you use Decimate early you just lose the crit chance from the 5 Abandon stacks. If you use Decimate too late, however, you'll lose it's full potency which you would've had if you used it early. It's pretty delicate but pretty easy to get used to.

    Also putting up Maim while everything is already stacked together isn't worth it, as that's 2 GCDs that could've been OP and the damage increase won't outweigh that afaik.
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    Last edited by SpookyGhost; 09-12-2015 at 11:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    If you maim during pull it's only one more gcd. I typically path the most problematic "big trash" since they tend to have aoes that are problematic as well as having at least slightly more hp than standard trash. after you have the pull lined up turn, drop zerk, vengeance and raw intuition, and nuke. Though i do agree you'd be better served holding onto the infuriate stacks for a few gcds rather than dumping them as well.

    trying to lock in the hard math on which one is more optimal overall is a bit tricky, but 560 potency in 2 gcds is worth almost 5 overpowers by themselves, and without the 650 tp pricetag. in a bubble where all dps aren't ninjas and are performing optimally this might seem like an excessive amount of force, but in practice i tend to parse higher than most dps and finish roulette runs in under 20 minutes. i can definitely agree you want to be stingier with your stacks and cooldowns in a2, let alone savage, but unless everything is going to be dead in your berserk window pushing out 2 decimates during that time seems pretty big.

    Thanks for pointing out the AS3 jump though, good catch!
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    Last edited by ArdorGrey; 09-12-2015 at 04:24 PM.