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    ArdorGrey's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy22 View Post
    I simply wanted to understand if the assumption posted was in fact based on real testing or just a extrapolation of common knowledge, so i can assess if i rather test this myself or not. So as it turns out the old test seems tobe the only one done for this case, which contradicts the common str/dmg linear scaling. So yes if i really want to know how flash scales with str i need to test this myself it seems.
    Good luck with the tests, let us know how it goes! I might try to get around the checking it out on my own some time. The easiest way would be to grab a pld buddy with identical gear, have one person gear str and the other vit and have a flash-off. make sure substats are the same though, even though it seems like crit doesn't affect it.
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    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdorGrey View Post
    Good luck with the tests, let us know how it goes! I might try to get around the checking it out on my own some time. The easiest way would be to grab a pld buddy with identical gear, have one person gear str and the other vit and have a flash-off. make sure substats are the same though, even though it seems like crit doesn't affect it.
    Then in this case the PLD who wears Piety accessories would win because he would have more mana.

    lol what a stupid comparison. A flash off.... Just wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerwin View Post
    Then in this case the PLD who wears Piety accessories would win because he would have more mana.

    lol what a stupid comparison. A flash off.... Just wow.
    The point of what you quoted either completely went over your head, or you're deliberately making a strawman argument to avoid facing the facts. I'm not sure which is more pathetic.

    Flash is absolutely affected by str, yet you wish to stick your head in the sand as regards to an easy method anyone can use to prove it. Block (and parry) damage reduction hasn't been affected by str since HW came out. Might want to actually know what you're talking about before acting like you do and making a fool of yourself.
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    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by braneri1 View Post
    The point of what you quoted either completely went over your head, or you're deliberately making a strawman argument to avoid facing the facts. I'm not sure which is more pathetic.

    Flash is absolutely affected by str, yet you wish to stick your head in the sand as regards to an easy method anyone can use to prove it. Block (and parry) damage reduction hasn't been affected by str since HW came out. Might want to actually know what you're talking about before acting like you do and making a fool of yourself.
    Lol good one. To bad it doesn't and your making a fool of yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerwin View Post
    Lol good one. To bad it doesn't and your making a fool of yourself.
    Woahh repeat what someone said to them, ya it's affected by attack power which is strength. So are self cures. That is why Berserk increases Equilibrium by 50%. The percentage of damage parried use to be effected by strength but they changed it because they didn't want anyone having like,45% parries. Pop a strength potion and cast clemency and do it without one. As warrior I dont have to I have berserk.
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    Sapphidia Wulfhaven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerwin View Post
    Lol good one. To bad it doesn't and your making a fool of yourself.
    Flash threat is 100% determined by your Weapon Damage + Strength. It just has its -damage- value set to zero but counts as if you were doing a 600 potency attack, and potency calculates off your Weapon/Strength. Vit tanks do less threat with a flash than Strength tanks, and has been shown and proven many many times.

    However, yes, you can argue that stacking strength for Flash threat is pointless if you can hold threat with a vit spec on huge pulls. In these cases, the Strength stacking

    Paladins are probably the tank that -least- benefit from a strength spec on large pulls. It helps Circle of Scorn and Goring Blade Spam of course, so it certainly is useful - it helps a bit but either spec works. Warriors and DRKs are very much suited to strength spec on big pulls though as their AOE threat moves do so much damage/self healing.

    It's all down to how much Vit you have in your left side gear. If you're in 190+ gear on left side then you really wont need the vitality at all for huge pulls in 4mans. If you're lower or unsure of the healer (as a Paladin at least) then vit accs on big pulls wont hurt as you're not really losing the group that much potential dps.
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