Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[Griffeth]

BTW, should someone start a new thread for Machinists so that the Original Post can be edited with the latest and greatest info?

Since it seems like the OP in this thread has stopped updating it. (BLM and DRG Threads all ended up being restarted with new threads in 3.0)

We have actually switched over to a google doc that I try to keep updated as new info comes in and gets tested. If we want to switch over to a new thread with the doc on the first page I am fine with starting it up, as long as people help keep it bumped and move people from this thread to that one.

The Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

[Emptymind]

Hey, been skimming through this for a while now, but are you supposed to use Ricochet on cd, or save it?

[VitalSuit]

Hey, been skimming through this for a while now, but are you supposed to use Ricochet on cd, or save it?

You pretty much use all of your skills on CD except for B4B which you hold for 10 seconds so it lines up with Hawk's Eye and you also hold Hypercharge so it lines up with your 1st and 3rd wildfires.

[girlsimulation]

Has anyone tested a 3-ammo opener like

(qr 3 ammo) (buffs) hot shot>POT>lead shot>WILDFIRE>split shot>RELOAD>slug shot>REASSEMBLE RICOCHET>clean shot>RAPID FIRE GAUSS ROUND>split shot>HEAD GRAZE>slug shot>BLANK>split shot>clean shot>QR>slug shot>(wildfire explodes)?

I've been toying with the idea and I've had okay results with it, but parses are inconsistent enough that I don't really like to rely on my own wildfire numbers alone.

e: I think you end up trading an unbuffed, no-ammo 50% clean shot/50% split shot for a buffed, reloaded split shot, which is a gain of about 80 potency under wildfire on average. That's a potency gain of about 20 overall, so obviously it's not gamechanging.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

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If you got time for a 3-ammo opener, you may as well go for a 5-ammo opener using quick reload to refresh the timer. If reload isn't up before pull: Use 3 skills -> Quick reload -> Use another weapon skill -> Reload -> continue. Otherwise continue per usual.

Ideally you'd want to start with:
Reload -> Quick reload every 15s till Reload is up -> Pull -> Quick reload before reload if you think you'll lose your ammo stacks and cannot use reload without waste. But this involves a 50-58s pull macro, which is worse than a ninja huton macro. For those with a warrior buddy: Warriors may actually thank you for a 50s pull macro, as they may have one as well for "the ideal opener"

[Myon88]

If you're like me and are too lazy to do any pre-pull ammo openers at all, you can still do what I do and do a "1-ammo opener" which does not require you to change anything at all. It's the standard single gauss round opener from the Shots Fired google doc.

Just put QR at the start of the pre-pull sequence (bfb, he, hc, rs) and it will come off cooldown exactly at the same time you use it in a normal opener. I really mean exactly, refer to the notation below - it's pretty much 15 seconds on the dot.

You get 20 more potency on the first Hot Shot, that's it. Nothing special, but at the same time it requires practically no thinking or setup timing at all, just start your pre-pull sequence 1 GCD earlier with QR.

QR, bfb, he, hc, rs
hot / pot
lead / reload
split / wf
slug / reassemble, ricochet
clean / rapid fire, QR
split / gauss round
slug / head graze
split / blank
clean /
slug

[Sleigh]

In raids you pretty much always have to wait a minute on SMN/SCH Aetherflow and maybe some other CDs anyway so it shouldn't be a big deal. In dungeons though yeah just flow with whatever you got.

[Myon88]

Yes you pretty much have to wait, but I'm that lazy. It's downtime I'd gladly take advantage of to rest - I'd much rather be doing my own thing tabbed out, or stretching and puttering around my room instead of staring at my timers alongside the SMN and SCH.

[Greywolfamakir]

Has anyone tested a 3-ammo opener like

(qr 3 ammo) (buffs) hot shot>POT>lead shot>WILDFIRE>split shot>RELOAD>slug shot>REASSEMBLE RICOCHET>clean shot>RAPID FIRE GAUSS ROUND>split shot>HEAD GRAZE>slug shot>BLANK>split shot>clean shot>QR>slug shot>(wildfire explodes)?

If you play in EU, doing your opener, the last slug shot is out of wildfire...EU servers, we are waiting for them !!!

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Yes you pretty much have to wait, but I'm that lazy. It's downtime I'd gladly take advantage of to rest - I'd much rather be doing my own thing tabbed out, or stretching and puttering around my room instead of staring at my timers alongside the SMN and SCH.

/ac "Reload" <me>
/p Reload 50s<wait.15>
/ac "Quick Reload" <me><wait.5>
/p Ready in 30s<wait.10>
/ac "Quick Reload" <me><wait.5>
/p Ready in 15s<wait.5>
/p Ready in 10s <se.10><wait.5>
/p Ready in 5s <se.14><wait.1>
/ac "Quick Reload" <me><wait.1>
/p Ready in 3s <se.14><wait.1>
/p Ready in 2s <se.14><wait.1>
/p Ready in 1s <se.14><wait.1>
/p Ready! <se.3>

I never got to use it because I'm always the designated healer for raids, though :P