CT is dead, please fix

[Dalvy]

"Coil is dead. Please fix"
"EX fights are dead. Please fix."
"Void Ark is dead. Please fix.

So on and so forth. Your problem is that the population has outgrown old content, regardless of what carrots on sticks get tossed in then. This is something that Square can't fix, really.

Also, CT sucks.

[Obysuca]

"Coil is dead. Please fix"
"EX fights are dead. Please fix."
"Void Ark is dead. Please fix.

So on and so forth. Your problem is that the population has outgrown old content, regardless of what carrots on sticks get tossed in then. This is something that Square can't fix, really.

Also, CT sucks.

They could if they either raised the ilvl on the gear/difficulty of content and what not to keep it relevant. They've kept old content relevant before in XI, everything was relevant, even 13 years after it came out so that shows they know how to do it. The problem so much isn't players outgrowing content, it's SE outdating content within 3 months. Sometimes they even outdate content before it's even out (Bismarck ex weapons were beaten by law weapons which were easier to obtain, dungeons come out 20+ ilvls lower than the current ilvl etc)

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

They could if they either raised the ilvl on the gear/difficulty of content.

I would totally do CT/ST/WoD savage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Reaperking386]

They could if they either raised the ilvl on the gear/difficulty of content and what not to keep it relevant. They've kept old content relevant before in XI, everything was relevant, even 13 years after it came out so that shows they know how to do it. The problem so much isn't players outgrowing content, it's SE outdating content within 3 months. Sometimes they even outdate content before it's even out (Bismarck ex weapons were beaten by law weapons which were easier to obtain, dungeons come out 20+ ilvls lower than the current ilvl etc)

hmm...but it under cuts the current content we have now for the upcoming 24 man.

[Obysuca]

hmm...but it under cuts the current content we have now for the upcoming 24 man.

Not really, it'd actually add more variety, we'd have more options in how we'd go about gearing up, rather than the same old 2 dungeons for eso or 24 man raid for subpar lower ilvl gear.

[Shirobi]

The problem so much isn't players outgrowing content, it's SE outdating content within 3 months. Sometimes they even outdate content before it's even out (Bismarck ex weapons were beaten by law weapons which were easier to obtain, dungeons come out 20+ ilvls lower than the current ilvl etc)

This. THIS THIS!

SE is started to make Blizzard look stodgy and slow when it comes to how fast they outdate items and content. The power bloat is REAL in this game.

Side grades SE, side grade. They extended content for YEARS in FFXI. Why have you forgotten how to make a nice, slow paced game with content progression?

[Suggestion]

"Coil is dead. Please fix"
"EX fights are dead. Please fix."
"Void Ark is dead. Please fix.

So on and so forth. Your problem is that the population has outgrown old content, regardless of what carrots on sticks get tossed in then. This is something that Square can't fix, really.

Also, CT sucks.

Coil sucks. Please don't do anything about it
Ex Fights sucks. Please don't do anything about it
Void Ark sucks, Please don't do anything about it

CT SUCKS, Dear gods don't do anything about it SE!

So on and so forth, your problem is that YOU find old and future outdated content sucky and would rather harp on people who want to revitalize old content to become less 'sucky'.... this is a problem SE can not fix for you, utterly.

[Twilite]

Coil sucks. Please don't do anything about it
Ex Fights sucks. Please don't do anything about it
Void Ark sucks, Please don't do anything about it

CT SUCKS, Dear gods don't do anything about it SE!

So on and so forth, your problem is that YOU find old and future outdated content sucky and would rather harp on people who want to revitalize old content to become less 'sucky'.... this is a problem SE can not fix for you, utterly.

This is why more roes should be married.

[Dalvy]

Coil sucks. Please don't do anything about it
Ex Fights sucks. Please don't do anything about it
Void Ark sucks, Please don't do anything about it

CT SUCKS, Dear gods don't do anything about it SE!

So on and so forth, your problem is that YOU find old and future outdated content sucky and would rather harp on people who want to revitalize old content to become less 'sucky'.... this is a problem SE can not fix for you, utterly.

What an amazing post.

Firstly, SE cannot force players to return to old content without suffering a backlash. It is the nature of MMOs with an upgrade system to leave behind the outdated content. Carrot-on-stick incentives are bandaids to a bigger problem that goes outside SE's scope and into western player mentality. Eventually people will get tired of trying to farm those cheap incentives...and then you're back to bitching about not being able to get carried through old content.

Secondly, we must be playing a different game because I remember endless complaints about CT being shitty to run due to wiping on easy mechanics, length of time, troll groups, etc. Putting players through the CT ringer in order to get their relic is highly unfair. Plus, what makes you think these issues won't resurface?

Third, if you can't get 24 people NOW why do you think SE can wave a wand and POOF there's people ready and waiting to queue, whenever you want. Queue times were very long for CT1 when CT3 was out. Take that into consideration.

Go ahead and make them undersized, but don't expect to return to the same volume of players that ran older content when it was still relevant. Once again, CT sucks.

[JayCommon]

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Well, all I can say is I hadn't run Ifrit Extreme in *literally* over a year because I could care less about the rewards there and I never really had any of my friends ask for help with that particular primal. Also, maybe it had something to do with fighting 3 different versions of him just made the encounter stale for me quicker than the other two. I went in a few days ago to help a friend get her fire pony and we did an unsync 3man for the win. It was more fun than I can remember having in Ifrit Extreme ever before.

So we ran it more. Because it was fun. Not for some reward.

21 tank 3 healer Syrcus Tower during 2.5 was also the most fun I've had in a 24man raid. All I'm trying to say is, you may not expect participation/interest levels to increase if they add unsync to the CT trio, but I could give two shits about any of those 3 instances and if they unsynced it and allowed undersized parties I would instantly be intrigued to go back into all of them. You wouldn't feel empowered to kill something with 8 people that was designed and tuned for 24??

Well, I would...so before you begin citing annotated references about "western player mentality", which I'm sure you Mastered in, please don't forget that....ya know....sometimes.......just the actual fun you're having can be considered the reward for some of us.

Also, when CT3 came out, the weekly quest also came out making you run all 3 for your upgrade items. Uh...everyone was doing that for a solid month. Queues were not "very long". At least not on my data center, which, oh Hey!!!, you happen to be a part of >.>