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  1. #21
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    Physical meta doesn't fix PLD. It will just highlight how unreliable Sheltron is in practice. Not to mention WAR will gain Raw Intuition and DRK will gain Dark Dance, Reprisal, and Low Blow procs. PLD gets their shield block, Bulwark, and Sheltron. None of which are significant enough to make it stand out.
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    I actually think if its more Physical DRK will be underpowered.

    Dark Dance is unreliable, Reprisal is unreliable and RNG based and not up often.
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  3. #23
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    If Dark Dance is unreliable, so is shield blocking. DRK is in a fine place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    If Dark Dance is unreliable, so is shield blocking. DRK is in a fine place.
    Not really, Shield Block happens far more often then Parry and they have other ways to mitigate physical damage.

    Shield Block happens even more then parry does with dark dance.

    Paladins can Parry AND Block.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 09-11-2015 at 03:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I actually think if its more Physical DRK will be underpowered.

    Dark Dance is unreliable, Reprisal is unreliable and RNG based and not up often.
    Even if unreliable and pretty shitty, Dark Dance still mitigates physical damage at a pretty consistant rate over an entire fight, granted it's totally unsafe to rely on it for an eventual physical tank buster, but the same goes for Bulwark. It's highly recommended to use these CDs in conjunction with other CDs. Reprisal is up more often than you think. I personally get it almost on CD everytime and I have almost 0 parry on my gear. It's still unreliable but parry still happens often enough to get a good uptime with it when MTing. And you can use Dark Dance every 60sec to force-proc it (except if you have a really shit luck).
    The difference between PLD and DRK in physical mitigation is almost only RNG things (only Sheltron is not and it's still clunky because it can eat an auto attack right before the tank buster).
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    Even if unreliable and pretty shitty, Dark Dance still mitigates physical damage at a pretty consistant rate over an entire fight, granted it's totally unsafe to rely on it for an eventual physical tank buster, but the same goes for Bulwark. It's highly recommended to use these CDs in conjunction with other CDs. Reprisal is up more often than you think. I personally get it almost on CD everytime and I have almost 0 parry on my gear. It's still unreliable but parry still happens often enough to get a good uptime with it when MTing. And you can use Dark Dance every 60sec to force-proc it (except if you have a really shit luck).
    The difference between PLD and DRK in physical mitigation is almost only RNG things (only Sheltron is not and it's still clunky because it can eat an auto attack right before the tank buster).
    20s out of 60 seconds is constant?

    Maybe if it was 30 seconds I would agree, but that is 1/3rd of the rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    20s out of 60 seconds is constant?

    Maybe if it was 30 seconds I would agree, but that is 1/3rd of the rate.
    I wrote consistant, not constant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Shield Block happens even more then parry does with dark dance.
    No. No it doesn't. Not even remotely, every parse in existence disproves this. Please stop lying to try to make a point, you seem to do this in most threads.
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    The 1st Gordian pld weapon obtained by a pld in a4 better have a big middle finger emote to come along with it lol it is possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad-phx View Post
    The 1st Gordian pld weapon obtained by a pld in a4 better have a big middle finger emote to come along with it lol it is possible
    Let's be real here. The first Gordian PLD weapon is gonna go to the dude that plays DRK now.

    His jimmies are gonna be so rustled. :c
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