How likely is Alex savage to be nerfed.

[Fynlar]

Comparisons to 2nd coil savage don't really have a place here, even though they share a similar moniker. SCoB Savage existed purely as a "challenge mode", with its only rewards being titles. It stands to reason they wouldn't do anything (directly) to make it easier.

Alex Savage actually offers higher tier loot.

[JayCommon]

You mean like how they fixed the enrage method 'bug' from T2? Lol.

This really isn't a valid comparison at all. Yoshi plainly said the only reason they didn't fix T2 was because so many people had already accepted it as a strat and beat it via that strat before they could implement a fix. They felt nerfing that particular way to beat the fight would cause more harm then good, even though it involved cheesing past the one mechanic the dev team most probably wanted us to learn to deal with: Allagan Rot. When T2 enrage strat hit youtube, EVERYONE was trying it, and beating it within attempts. The damage was done almost overnight. They learned from their lesson though. Now we all have disgusting-level-hard enrages that hit us by 6 digit integers to make sure we can't overheal through them.

Such evolve.

Edit: To throw my 2 gil answer in to the OP, no I don't think they will touch the mechanics of Alex Savage or introduce Echo to it. I actually believe exactly what Ibi posted on the first page, about i-levels of gear allowing non-savage runners to not need savage gear to raid Alex 2 NM.

[Whiteroom]

What would be the point of nerfing it. Since we already have Alex normal, nerfing the hard content is like the ultimate white flag to the whole "give me everything for nothing" crowd. It would be a sad day for gaming.

[Bhuni]

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So you don't think Lucrezias clear is legit then? I mean why else would you believe it should be 'addressed' if not for that very reason.

Folk using the infamous pit in T5 to dodge Divebombs isn't necessarily intended either as you're able to move out of the vertical range of said Divebombs by clever use of the terrain.

[KarstenS]

The comparison falls somewhere inbetween T5's first clears that clearly abused a glitch

As far I remember, it was a teleport hack. There was a spot above the arena, where you didn't fall down back to the floor and where you was out of range for any attacks.

[CosmicKirby]

So you don't think Lucrezias clear is legit then? I mean why else would you believe it should be 'addressed' if not for that very reason.

Folk using the infamous pit in T5 to dodge Divebombs isn't necessarily intended either as you're able to move out of the vertical range of said Divebombs by clever use of the terrain.

I never said that.

The pit isn't, however, the glitches that allowed players to beat Twintania without her being able to act clearly are.

If the fight is still a challenge, then it's still in the spirit of the game to complete the fight in that matter. But being able to take damage while you're actually at zero health clearly isn't an intended mechanic.

[Nomad-phx]

It won't get nerfed at all. The only purpose to nerf the previous coils was because people got left out of story. Now there's story raids so I can't see any possible reasons to nerf Alexander.

[vp_cmc]

I ask simply because of SE's track record of doing so, many people don't seem to think so but i just have a feeling it will happen eventually. Thoughts?.

I think A1S bosses will have less hp, only 2 rocket spots, and resin bomb will not leave heavy aoe field on the ground... oh wait

[Windklinge]

What would be the point of nerfing it. Since we already have Alex normal, nerfing the hard content is like the ultimate white flag to the whole "give me everything for nothing" crowd. It would be a sad day for gaming.

which sadly is probaly what is gonna happen. hw brought us more of the SAME stuff as before and reduced it fruther and focused way to much on useless leveling stuff. before end tier raid weapons had a 5ilvl advantage over all other weapons until relic catched up to them later. currently? may get eso weapons+ upgrade mat from hunts on 3.1 or get relic which very likely will be i210 aswell. another slap to raiders and another step towards more easy mode altough it might be a small one its still a step towards it.

i take bets theyll add echo to savage once 3.2 hits. not before tough. they probaly also nerf some mechanics aswell like they did with scob back then.

currently ff14 is basicly doing the same things wrong that lotro did wrong back then. just look what happend to that game. at some point the devs decided hardcore raids were not worth the development time anymore and required to much work (was only 1 raid aswell just like here) so they just scrapped them and the raiding comm died out. now its causal gamers only on that game. and now servers get merged. suprise? ff is on that same path. i just hope they dont make the same mistake down the road.

most important part is to stop raising level caps with expansions and focus on endgame content more then leveling stuff which most players do once and then never again making it basicly wasted content.

[Whiteroom]

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Tbh. The gear level isn't the issue and shouldn't be. The content should not be nerfed just so that people don't want to put in the effort to beat it, can. There should be an epic challange level for in games, it goves those who want to strive for execlence somthing to aim for and a sense of accomplishment for completeing it. They can and should have their unique reward for beating it. Other things like the long grind for relics an have their high ilevel for completion as well.

I just really hate the dumbing down of everything (be it ingame or irl), for people who think they deserve to be included i n everything, with mediocre, sub-par performance, and little to no effort on their part. The whole awards for showing up movement is something I find to be disgusting.


Edit: damn, I had written more, but it got lost when editing for character restriction on my phone.