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  1. #601
    Player Kaisinel's Avatar
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    Cold Steel'
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Hioki you just made me lol, but seriously they could give the OP a 3000 potency attack every 10 seconds and that still probably won't be good enough from what I read during 60 pages of ranting.
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  2. #602
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    Hioki's Avatar
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    Hioki Mitone
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    To be fair, PLD has a lot of issues, DPS is like #3 of a ten point list.

    If switching jobs without gear penalty was easier I'm not certain this thread would be as lengthy as it. That's really my #1 issue. The armory system is terrible.
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  3. #603
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    Samahri Ronso
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 71
    We have less enmity modifiers on our skills than both WAR and DRK which is absurd considering their main combos are both more potent dps-wise than PLD's combos. Lack of aoe damage makes them somewhat trivial to even run dungeons with because WAR and DRK have the ability to burst everything down much faster while not making healing much more difficult on the group thanks to bloodbath and said aoe damage. Instead of continuing my dismay for what PLD has become I thankfully don't have a savage group for 3.0 as PLD is the only thing I gear with ESO. As such I've had the time to level warrior and now I can have a raid group while using a few pieces of my PLD gear ( Alex nq slaying right side, fending belt) still no mention from the dev team re:PLD changes so it's time to join the dark side in favor of stronger potency higher damaging jobs that simply get the job done better- and more easily at that. RIP 3.0-3.1 PLD, see you in October ( I hope)
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  4. #604
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade_uri View Post
    Oh wow this one is still going huh? Well keep her going! I bet my assistant manager at work ( plays wow but finds this amusing) that this will reach 100 pages!!!

    Come on! I have £5 riding on this!
    Just for you I shall snark the snarkiest I have ever snarked before.
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  5. #605
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    Kemas's Avatar
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    Samahri Ronso
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Just for you I shall snark the snarkiest I have ever snarker before.
    Well it must be nice that he can raid on his main job while some of us have to grovel on the forums until PLD has a legitimate purpose in raiding over DRK/WAR in raid content.
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  6. #606
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    Phoenicia's Avatar
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    Naomi Enami
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemas View Post
    ...so it's time to join the dark side...
    There is no dark or light side my friend. There is only one side.... And it's the one with the WAR on it! :>

    PLD's combos also have more hits that have an enmity modifier than WAR and DRK. WAR and DRK have 1 combo that has the enmity modifier on, PLD has the main combo + Shield Swipe + Circle of Scorn. If anything, I think that's the reason in SE's minds to have lower modifiers. Whether that's justifiable or not, only SE knows.

    The main issue with PLD is not only that its enmity modifiers are weaker, they have the weakest base potency with no permanent DPS buff (Maim/Darkside). So when you say PLD has a 260 potency on RoH, that's it. You may boost with FoF, but meh. WAR ends up with 336 on BB without Zerk/Unchained, which are crazy btw. And DRK has 345 on its Power Slash.
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  7. #607
    Player
    Kemas's Avatar
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    Samahri Ronso
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    Sargatanas
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    Well if there's no dark side, I guess I'm joining the war side?lol jokes aside still no mention from SE in regards to PLD so time to succumb to the axe/great sword like my fellow raiding PLD. /salute
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  8. #608
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    Celest Ru'milan
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemas View Post
    Well if there's no dark side, I guess I'm joining the war side?lol jokes aside still no mention from SE in regards to PLD so time to succumb to the axe/great sword like my fellow raiding PLD. /salute
    Think of it as widening your skill base. So, when PLD becomes the tank that it should be you will have such a wide and broad understanding of your brother and sister classes that you will bring further glory and honor to your PLD brethren.
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  9. #609
    Player
    Kemas's Avatar
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    That's EXACTLY how I'm viewing it. I did the same for healers pre ast buff and let that sit in isolation until they made it viable. Now it's my go to healer for dailies. Praying we get some news soon but last I remember they thought it was intelligent to wait until 3.1 to even consider making PLD enmity mods equal to DRK/wars. Sometimes I wonder what SE is doing when they prioritize masks showing on auras or adding bikinis to a cash shop over keeping all jobs viable in end game content.
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  10. #610
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    Phoenicia's Avatar
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    Naomi Enami
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kemas View Post
    That's EXACTLY how I'm viewing it. I did the same for healers pre ast buff and let that sit in isolation until they made it viable. Now it's my go to healer for dailies. Praying we get some news soon but last I remember they thought it was intelligent to wait until 3.1 to even consider making PLD enmity mods equal to DRK/wars. Sometimes I wonder what SE is doing when they prioritize masks showing on auras or adding bikinis to a cash shop over keeping all jobs viable in end game content.
    B-but bikinis! I mean how else can we (E)RP? Yeah?

    But yeah, PLD aggro (at the very least) should be SE's priority over anything else. I'm leveling my PLD atm and having a blast getting around all the clunk lol. But I know that is going to be an issue if I ever raid on it.
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