Emotes in the cash shop..

[Moonleg]

Hakuro, your evidence is no less anecdotal referencing items from the version of the game that came before this. I'm referencing things that were added in this version of the game.

You have offered no evidence whatsoever that this is in any way a net positive for the players. You refuse to comment on the fact that with items put in the cash shop you will with probability bordering on certainty NEVER get an option to do something in the game to obtain them. Show me just ONE item on the cash shop that any kind of farming, grinding or whatever in the game, TODAY, will give me and I will 'stop it'.

[Velthice]

the only "Sense" it makes is financial because SE marketing department knows people will shell out the cash for content removed from the game that they payed a subscription to make.

This is the only justification they need. It's the same way PSN is a subscription service on the ps4. It's not necessary, but it's been proven people will pay for it anyway, so they'd be a fool not to capitalize on that. They're not going to feel bad about making money, and a handful of people on the forums going "tut tut, shame on you" probably isn't going to elicit any response from SE other than snickering behind closed doors. You can think it's not right all you want, that's your right to do so, but from a business standpoint, you're so far in the minority that you're safely disregarded.

[HakuroDK]

Hakuro, your evidence is no less anecdotal referencing items from the version of the game that came before this. I'm referencing things that were added in this version of the game.

You have offered no evidence whatsoever that this is in any way a net positive for the players. You refuse to comment on the fact that with items put in the cash shop you will with probability bordering on certainty NEVER get an option to do something in the game to obtain them. Show me just ONE item on the cash shop that any kind of farming, grinding or whatever in the game, TODAY, will give me and I will 'stop it'.

Actually, while I did mention items from 1.0, you will notice I also mentioned Lightning Strikes as evidence for things refusing to appear in-game again or even on the cash shop. Where do you acquire that again? Because it sure as hell isn't the cash shop.

I've offered as much evidence for this being a net positive as you have as this being a net negative. Like... you can get something you otherwise would never have access to in the game otherwise. That's the gross positive. The gross negative is that you have to pay a few dollars for it. There's no net gain or loss here other than hypotheticals.

And there is one item that can be acquired today right now that is also on the cash shop. In the cash shop, there is an item called the "Tetsuji Usagi Kabuto". It shares the exact same model as the "Usagi Kabuto" found in-game. And guess what? The Usagi Kabuto is available on the Market Board in every server. Even I own one. So I tell you one last time. Stop it.

[Naunet]

It's not contradictory. If you want a VERY specific piece of content, you pay. If you don't want to pay, you use the free stuff (which is in the VAST majority).

Also you clearly didn't understand my statement: It is GOOD for US when SE has more money. The more money they have the more they can invest into the game.

It is not good for us when SE removes content from the game that had previously come with our $15/month and then charges extra for it. That is the opposite of good for us.

Nothin in game is free. It all costs $15/month.

You clearly don't understand what people are saying to you: It's not "Good" to pay above your subscription with microtransactions, there is zero consumer friendly reason they exist.

Precisely.

Do people really think this is how it works? Oh dear.

Yeah. They're kidding themselves if they think money made off the cash shop is going anywhere but right into SE's pockets or into more cash shop stuff.

Okay, that's enough of that bullcrap. You're treating an aesthetic feature the same way as content-gating.

AESTHETICS ARE CONTENT.

[NadienKirisame]

Cry more children cry more...


The cat is amused =^.^=

[HakuroDK]

AESTHETICS ARE CONTENT.

Please do cry a little louder, I'm a tad deaf in this ear.

[GreyWard]

Most games that feature online modes, Diablo, Dragon Age. ect have free seasonal exclusive content these days, it encourages the player base to stick around.
I don't see why this is such a hard concept to grasp. If you miss out you miss out.

Players like exclusivity, that's not going to change no matter how many extended tantrums are thrown about it. So SE has no reason to change this business model.

[Kat_Manx]

Here's a NEW way for you to think about it:

If you had been around when the emote was originally released for free, you would since then have paid "however many months there has been since x the amount you pay for the game per month" dollars since.

However now, when you only buy the emote, it will cost you.. uhh.. well IDK what it is priced at... 2 dollars? But I'm fairly sure it's a LOT cheaper than the other amount.

Not to mention people who were actually playing and paying for the game back then got sort of "rewarded" with the emote, and you didn't.. obviously. But they were nice enough to let you have it anyway.

[Zeonx]

I'll say it again.

Old content that was here that came with old events and people have gotten regardless if you are new like the lightning event, I don't want to see those events again.

Its done its over with, make something new and better with new stuff, stop quitting the game and then coming back and complaining about how you didn't get something cause if you really wanted it, you would of hit the subscription button and came back for that emote or said item.

If you didn't know about the game until now, just wait for them to pop up some other way cash shop or in game if they ever do it again, patients is the key complaining about it isn't gonna get this for you, because us other half would rather see new things added because we actually kept subscribing instead of quitting or taking a break.

Not trying to be mean, I just don't want to do old events, FFXI killed it for me back then with the whole +1 +2 latent effect same events over and over and nothing new and ffxiv has been doing it correct so far why ruin that?

[Moonleg]

Zeonx, would your game experience be affected if, on top of the event this summer, there had been the same NPC to teach the bomb dance except he wouldn't have a quest for you if you had already obtained the emote? Would you even realize he was there?