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    Quote Originally Posted by IoannesBellator View Post
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    The Final Fantasy series do not portray organized religion as evil. They portray fanatism and blind (mass) murder in the name of a god. Things organized religious groups.. err, tend to do at some point in their history (unless they get crushed before, that is).

    I have yet to find any "Religion = Evil" message in any FF I've played. All the games featuring crystals are basically "save these gods and the world with them", FFVI has nothing against the espers but
    Kefka is one psychotic murderous god so we kill him
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    in FFVII you're saving a god against an alien, in FFT you're fighting against fanatics abusing the powers of the gods, not the religion itself. Can't comment on 8 & 9 as I have yet to do them.

    FFX : the religion itself is corrupted at its core because of a misunderstanding.
    In the end you put it on rails again and the belief itself brings no harm anymore upon Spira


    FFXII : nothing to do with religion directly, more "abuse of political power"

    can't comment on 13.

    in FFXIV the gods as we fight them are just Aether-sucking illusions. And Ishgard has a particular case of fanatism, but the religion of the Twelves in itself has yet to be pictured as "bad".
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    Quote Originally Posted by IoannesBellator View Post
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    Now we're doing this...

    It's not really my place to comment on Eastern religions, because I don't know very much about them. However, what you call "wishy-washy magical thought" is arguably wiser than "there is one God as spelled out in the Christian Bible," and just as important to them as the Bible is to Christians. That "wishy-washy magical thought" generally accepts that it doesn't know everything, and the wisest thing anyone can say is "I do not know," because it's only though accepting your own ignorance that you can learn.

    Seriously though, if you're going to call other religions stupid you should be willing to accept your own religion is stupid, or at least has stupid things within it.

    Anyway, yes thermodynamics is a thing, but without knowing how much initial heat (energy) existed it's impossible to calculate how much time it would take to reach equilibrium. We're actually headed towards that effect, otherwise known as the Heat Death of the Universe. Scary stuff, huh?

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    VIII has nothing religious about or in it, and IX has churches but the religion of the planet is not really touched on.

    XIII's relationship with faith is... complicated. There's one good goddess, the rest of the gods are evil, but it has little to do with human worship.
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