Hair contest: petitioning

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

No one is complaining their submission didn't make it into the finalists. I submitted and I am not even mad about that. What I am honestly upset about is the lack of variety in the finalists chosen. Not only that, some of them are similar to what we have now so it doesn't accurately represents what the community as a whole wanted to see more in hairstyles. We are narrowed down to these choices which are even similar to each other and we have no variety to choose from at all. No one is bashing on the artistic skill, we are just concerned that the point of this contest was null if we are just going to have similar hairstyles than the ones we already have. Another thing people are concerned about is that votes might be biased due to the art skill making the whole entry look better overall but in 3D it might not have the same impact. I can already see the top 3 voted in 3D and ingame in my mind (I'm a 2d/3d artist) they are not going to look as appealing as they look on paper. The contest should have focused on the hairstyles themselves by forcing the templates in so that people vote for the hairstyle not the overall entry.

I did a research on the forums and I counted the type of hairstyles we have in game specifically so I would design something that we don't have yet instead of submitting something similar to what we already have so everyone with different tastes have more room to choose from.

Another concern is, if they are going to choose obvious hairstyles from their own games, might as well just implement them already instead of wasting a contest spot where an original or just different hairstyle actually designed by a player could use. Easier to make a poll with "What hairstyle from previous FF games would you like implemented" than wasting a spot for someone who actually designed their own, which i thought was the purpose of this contest, to design something yourself. Inspiration is fine, but blant out copy? Should've at least made some notable modifications, like a variation, heh. No self input was put into those kind of entries.

I honestly saw more variety in the thread for non finalists than in the finalists themselves and I say this with all honesty and respectfully. I also didn't see any problem in translating them to 3D.

I am really glad there are contests like this and I welcome them with open arms, really. I just wish they be handled differently so that stuff like this doesn't happen you know?

[DawnSolaria]

Say its not a complain, but still a really long rant?

The hair style i voted for is very different than the one that was in game, and i personally cannot wait for the top voted to get implemented. Dev have their reason to pick what they did, that could be difficulty in implementation, clipping issue with existing armor, etc. What we as players should do is to just appreciate the contest and effort, or you can be sure to never see such contest again.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

The hair style i voted for is very different than the one that was in game, and i personally cannot wait for the top voted to get implemented. Dev have their reason to pick what they did, that could be difficulty in implementation, clipping issue with existing armor, etc. What we as players should do is to just appreciate the contest and effort, or you can be sure to never see such contest again.

It's obvious all you see is whining from people because you are refusing to actually read people's posts. If you actually read the posts, maybe you'd understand what people's concerns are about. People are posting in a respectfully manner yet you go out and bash on us in a non respectful way like you quoting me the way you did. It is criticism to make these contests better, we don't want them to stop being held, we want more of this, just better done. Ever heard of criticism? I don't see the OP or any of the posters agreeing saying that the entries are shitty or just whining like a baby. They are being done constructively. Maybe you should do the same thing.

[Tragoedia]

It's obvious all you see is whining from people because you are refusing to actually read people's posts. If you actually read the posts, maybe you'd understand what people's concerns are about. People are posting in a respectfully manner yet you go out and bash on us in a non respectful way like you quoting me the way you did. It is criticism to make these contests better, we don't want them to stop being held, we want more of this, just better done. Ever heard of criticism? I don't see the OP or any of the posters agreeing saying that the entries are shitty or just whining like a baby. They are being done constructively. Maybe you should do the same thing.

This ! Just this !

[DawnSolaria]

It's obvious all you see is whining from people because you are refusing to actually read people's posts. If you actually read the posts, maybe you'd understand what people's concerns are about. People are posting in a respectfully manner yet you go out and bash on us in a non respectful way like you quoting me the way you did. It is criticism to make these contests better, we don't want them to stop being held, we want more of this, just better done. Ever heard of criticism? I don't see the OP or any of the posters agreeing saying that the entries are shitty or just whining like a baby. They are being done constructively. Maybe you should do the same thing.

Better done? How so? Disclosing more information? I assure you they if they did, General forum will be filled with why SE sucks at their reasons for choosing certain hairstyle. I admitted i did not read past first 2 pages, because it already gave me enough headache.

[BreathlessTao]

I honestly saw more variety in the thread for non finalists than in the finalists themselves and I say this with all honesty and respectfully.

So much this.

[DawnSolaria]

Nowhere does it say in the thread that it's a petition by everyone in the community. Those who wanted a voice regarding if they were pleased/displeased are within their rights to post (in a constructive manner) regarding their thoughts/opinions about how the contest is being handled etc.

This would be a petition stating the general upset at the lack of representation of what we, as a community, wanted in style choices. I don't bring this up lightly, as there are probably those people out there who feel the choices displayed suit them.

I want no part in this, nor was I generally upset.

[Syrehn]

I want no part in this

Then kindly leave the thread.

[DawnSolaria]

Then kindly leave the thread.

I would if OP would stop being all inclusive when it comes to petition. Be specific on who is starting the petition and dont lump people who do not agree with you together.

Edit: as op have edit her post, I apologize for being hotheaded and rude. I am just rather tired of seeing people starting petition for everyone. Keep up the constructive criticism(no sarcasm intended)

[Syrehn]

I would if OP would stop being all inclusive when it comes to petition. Be specific on who is starting the petition and dont lump people who do not agree with you together.

I'm pretty sure this line (on the original post):

I'm looking for interested parties to help file a formal petition of the hair contest.

and this edit (on the original post):

***Added for clarification***
It was never my intention to personally include you (the reader) into my own opinions or my metaphorical box. I know that I may be part of the minority who are upset. Hell, I may be the *only* one upset, but after reading so many other concerned thoughts and feelings from others, I only wished to put feelers out there, seeking out likeminded individuals who want to join me in my box. I am sorry if I have offended you or lead you to believe I was speaking for you personally. I only speak for myself and those I have the permission to do so with. I also apologize if my language was misleading. I'll take it into consideration when responding.
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Is pretty indicative of the OP never intending to speak on behalf of everyone.