Savage Alexander and the Paladin Exodus

[Zumi]

World firsts and second guilds are trying to beat the fight undergeared. This will be a non issue in 1 or 2 months when the majorty of average FCs beat it. I am not in a world first FC wouldn't switch from Pld to a job I have no esoterics gear on.

[Lyone]

World firsts and second guilds are trying to beat the fight undergeared. This will be a non issue in 1 or 2 months when the majorty of average FCs beat it. I am not in a world first FC wouldn't switch from Pld to a job I have no esoterics gear on.

The problem is that right now he could switch to DRK with 0 esoterics gear and do even better than his pld in every way. This is the core of the issue.

[Synestra]

World firsts and second guilds are trying to beat the fight undergeared. This will be a non issue in 1 or 2 months when the majorty of average FCs beat it. I am not in a world first FC wouldn't switch from Pld to a job I have no esoterics gear on.

There are other peoples progressing savage aswell besides these "WF elites" ya know? and im not fine waiting 1-2 months just for the hope of clearing content that is about to get old anyway. Now if only we had more than one raid instance then this wouldnt be so bad, but atm there is only Alex and nothing else.

[Ladon]

There are other peoples progressing savage aswell besides these "WF elites" ya know? and im not fine waiting 1-2 months just for the hope of clearing content that is about to get old anyway. Now if only we had more than one raid instance then this wouldnt be so bad, but atm there is only Alex and nothing else.

Not to mention that as people gear up they are actually moving to Warrior-Warrior teams since they are vastly superior in everything and healer potency is getting to the point that Warriors don't even need to be in defiance to tank most of Alex Savage, can hold threat just fine using their highest potency, highest hate combo, cheese through most tank busters with holmgang and their massive DPS increase they bring doesn't even allow enough time for the Limit Break penalty to even matter.

[Synestra]

Not to mention that as people gear up they are actually moving to Warrior-Warrior teams since they are vastly superior in everything and healer potency is getting to the point that Warriors don't even need to be in defiance to tank most of Alex Savage, can hold threat just fine using their highest potency, highest hate combo, cheese through most tank busters with holmgang and their massive DPS increase they bring doesn't even allow enough time for the Limit Break penalty to even matter.

Yeah and im pretty sure you could already do A1S with 6 warriors and 2 healers(im looking at you Xeno and co :P)because they are not really far behind real DD's in terms of DPS when they can go all out in Deliverance. And yeah even my co-tank doesnt really use Defiance much anymore as its not that needed even on busters with proper CD usage and holmgang.

I actually cant wait to see when first 6(7) war 2(1) heals A1S is going to happen, it will be hilarious to watch for sure like previous ones

[Shining_Tiger_Excalibur]

CONT.
It's been said on other forums (particularly BlueGartr,) Paladin nor Dark Knight compliment one another with skills to help the other (or the team in general) perform better given the extreme need for dps. Seems Dark Knight can hold its own with regards to dps, mp management, and tp management. Warrior, as usual has been at the forefront as a hybrid tank/dps which requires a ton of skill and confidence. Paladin has been, admittedly since the Warrior improvements, the inferior tank job (the introduction of Dark Knight has only increased the observable delta between them.) From what I can gather even with a party composition made entirely just to assist one of the two tanks issues, Alexander Savage Floor 3 seems to be our limit at this current time.

[Shining_Tiger_Excalibur]

CONT.
Like I've said, I'm okay with being as low dps and "inferior" as I am right now.I'm not okay with Square-Enix giving me support style skills that I can only use sometimes, that have arguably extremely limited use, while allowing me to stay so far behind on skillset as to provoke the community into telling me to "just wait" for better gear or some such nonsense. I'm also not only looking at current content, but future content where a DRK and PLD might be forced to cooperate with massive physical and magical damage to mitigate. PLD in that regard will still be severely lacking in skillset, dps, and overall ability. It kills me that I have to admit that I am the weakest link and there's nothing I can do about it besides level a WAR, take around a month to be even half as good as the ones that are here now and abandon a job I absolutely love because of what it does (and doesn't do.)

[Shining_Tiger_Excalibur]

FINAL POST
I'm not asking to be Over-Powered, or even buffed for that matter. I just want to be considered, which is what Warriors needed and asked for in previous content. They saw the possibility for the job to do amazing things and it surely does. I see that for Paladin as well, just in a different sense of form and function. Thanks for your time, your consideration, and just the ability to allow us to voice our concerns with current and future content.

[Zumi]

There are other peoples progressing savage aswell besides these "WF elites" ya know? and im not fine waiting 1-2 months just for the hope of clearing content that is about to get old anyway. Now if only we had more than one raid instance then this wouldnt be so bad, but atm there is only Alex and nothing else.

We only raid like 1 to 2 hours a week and we beat alex 2 savage last week. Still able to beat stuff with me playing paladin they seem fine to me. 50 or so more dps is not really going to make or break you. Its the dps job to put out the dps tanks not so much.

[Ashkendor]

We only raid like 1 to 2 hours a week and we beat alex 2 savage last week. Still able to beat stuff with me playing paladin they seem fine to me. 50 or so more dps is not really going to make or break you. Its the dps job to put out the dps tanks not so much.

The whole point being that if the DPS are putting out their maximum and it's still not enough, you either 1) wait weeks until the DPS get more geared, or 2) try to squeeze out some damage from your tanks and healers.