NIN's It's time to stand up

[Metalwrath]

This is actually demonstrably false. While player skill can and does impact mudra execution, so does latency. It's not reproducible on command but the most visible instance of this involves instances wherein you hit a mudra, its cooldown finishes, and the Ninjutsu button doesn't change to the proper Ninjutsu because latency has prevented the server from seeing that the mudra was executed properly. If you then hit the next Mudra, it will at times over-ride the first (or sometimes not be registered at all, depending on when the server "catches up" to your client-side inputs).

Like i said it's a player issue not a server issue.SE has not created Mudra lag.you haveing a bad connection has made Mudra lag.Get a decent ISP and stop blaming SE servers.There is nothing wrong with them and the majority of the community will agree with me on this statement.For a while the servers did have some issues due to too many players.

[Kumori_Kumo]

SE has not created Mudra lag.you haveing a bad connection has made Mudra lag.

N-... No. That's just not true. People with great connections still miss all kinds of interstitial moves. I play Dragoon, which now requires three moves per GCD in places, and I have a stellar connection; it still drops moves. To say nothing of what a nightmare working with pets is in the game. This is not an imagined issue nor purely the fault of one's ISP. I'm sorry but you're just mistaken on this one.

[NovaLevossida]

If they won't fix their mudra system, they need to get rid of it.

I'd also like to see TA effect still applied but the damage substantially reduced if the positional is missed. Most times I've missed TA is because the tank wants to spin the boss around suddenly, so I don't like being punished unduly because of a Duty Finder tank suddenly flipping around.

[ChalupaBatman]

The only issues I have for NiN is TP and Mudra Lag, which is more my problem since I play on PS4 for the west coast and cannot use programs like WTFast which I'm sure most end game NIN's use.

WOuld love to lower the CD for DWAD though, make it like MNK's EF with a 30 sec cooldown would be amazing.

Currently on A4s and not doing that extra 50ish dps because of mudra derp kinda sucks but I'll live.

[Egnasya]

If they won't fix their mudra system, they need to get rid of it.

Thing is, that is hardly a new issue. NIN was introduced with 2.4 yet they didn't make adjustments to Mudras with any of the following major patches. You'd think if they intended to fix anything they'd have done it by now. And getting rid of it? Of NIN's only unique set of mechanics? Won't happen.

Chances are things will stay exactly as they are now since nothing has been done close to the introduction of the class, it's basically too late now. Which is why I'm convinced that any of those issues introduced with 3.0 that are not addressed by 3.1 will stay in game forever as well. That's just how SE does it.

[Noelzzz]

They won't fix mudras lag anytime soon just because that would means to rework the job. In my opinion the best thing they can do is to split the job from rogue and to give a new life to ninja with a revamped skillset and instead of mudras a bunches of casted ninjutsu. Rogue could easily become Thief and we would get 2 iconic jobs. The mudra system is born just to give ninjas feeling in a complete thief skillset, that's why i see them as bad and lazy design

[Shyle]

People, It took SE 2 years to finally figure out how to put the TP bars in the group pane, and they still haven't figured out how to program code to allow tells while you're in a dungeon. They'll probably never figure out the quagmire of mudra lag... they probably think it's some black voodoo magic or something.

[Alahra]

they still haven't figured out how to program code to allow tells while you're in a dungeon.

As far as I'm aware that's because they aren't trying to. No /tells in dungeons was an intentional decision, from what I remember.

[morerancor]

They could just get rid of the ninjutsu actions and just replace them to the the actions themselves, like all the other jobs. They added complexity and promised it would be rewarding,then they nerfed it. There's 4 ninjutsu (action plus mudras) and only 4 moves I'd use( either go with raiton, suiton,huton and the katon)

[Subucnimorning]

They could just get rid of the ninjutsu actions and just replace them to the the actions themselves, like all the other jobs. They added complexity and promised it would be rewarding,then they nerfed it. There's 4 ninjutsu (action plus mudras) and only 4 moves I'd use( either go with raiton, suiton,huton and the katon)

Doton also so 5, so it would be 1 extra keybind.